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>>mfwit+(OP)
Its getting worse everywhere:

some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps)

Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely reminds you that 'Edge is a great browser with added "trust of microsoft"' (A company who happen to be watching when you download a web browser).

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/2/22813733/microsoft-window...

Linux seems like an OS that is way more respectful.

>>acomje+Gf
Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are.

Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS must be opened with a right-click.

Safari suggestions are also a great example: So far, I like them in iOS 17, since they can also provide direct links to useful sites such as Wikipedia. But don't doubt for a second, that taking traffic away from Google was the primary goal here.

Microsoft isn't so smart. Most users, including non-technical, can see through their attempts.

>>Sebast+q01
Battery throttling doesn’t fit the rest of these. Preventing a device reboot is pro consumer.

>>basch+Ai1
Shipping a device that will overheat and reboot when the device is a couple years old and fixing it by silently throttling the device isn't pro consumer either

Those devices really should have been recalled or offered a generous trade-in value to account for the fundamental design flaw

>>flagra+Xp1
Have you found a new battery technology where that is mid the case?

>>scarfa+Pw1
Device design is always constrained by the current technology. It isn't impossible to make a phone with current battery tech that doesn't overheat after a year or two of normal use

Apple just pushed design to far and underestimated the cooling/heat dissipation required

>>flagra+CB1
You keep mentioning cooling / heat - this is the first I’ve ever heard of this in relation to batterygate, and in fact the first I’ve ever heard of any battery “overheating” (generating more heat?) as a result of a normal ageing process - where are you getting this from?

>>thebru+OK1
My understanding was that the concerns were related to degraded batteries having a lower voltage potential.

The hardware and software were shipped with performance optimized to the initial voltage curves of the battery. Once that voltage curve decreases slightly the device will either reboot when the processor attempts to run at a higher clock speed than the battery voltage can support, or the battery can technically keep up though begin to overheat as the operating voltage is a higher draw than the battery can safely handle.

Dont get me wrong I'm not aware of any concerns over the phone actuary catching fire like that one generation of Samsung years ago, but the degraded battery would either lead to reboots or excess heat.

>>flagra+8C2
There is no “overdrive” as you suggest. With a higher internal resistance you get a bigger voltage drop internally. There is way to overcome this.