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1. acomje+Gf[view] [source] 2023-06-27 14:26:31
>>mfwit+(OP)
Its getting worse everywhere:

some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps)

Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely reminds you that 'Edge is a great browser with added "trust of microsoft"' (A company who happen to be watching when you download a web browser).

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/2/22813733/microsoft-window...

Linux seems like an OS that is way more respectful.

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2. Sebast+q01[view] [source] 2023-06-27 17:39:51
>>acomje+Gf
Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are.

Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS must be opened with a right-click.

Safari suggestions are also a great example: So far, I like them in iOS 17, since they can also provide direct links to useful sites such as Wikipedia. But don't doubt for a second, that taking traffic away from Google was the primary goal here.

Microsoft isn't so smart. Most users, including non-technical, can see through their attempts.

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3. rootus+7L1[view] [source] 2023-06-27 21:45:04
>>Sebast+q01
> Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s

This is one of the ways I can tell what preconceived opinion someone has. The only problem with the battery throttling was PR. The engineering solution was correct and objectively better than not throttling. Should they have told users their battery was failing? Sure. But keeping the phone from crashing was better than letting it.

> unauthorized Apps on MacOS must be opened with a right-click

I've never had to do that.

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4. FireBe+6U1[view] [source] 2023-06-27 22:37:03
>>rootus+7L1
> I've never had to do that.

Using OKD (OpenShift Kubernetes Distribution) because I just dealt with this morning:

https://github.com/okd-project/okd/releases - download the MacOS installer and unzip it.

Then try to run it from the command line. Be told that it "cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified". This is NOT the "is an app downloaded from the Internet, do you wish to run it?" dialog.

Go to Finder, and double click it. Get the same message.

You have to go to Finder, then right click the app, specifically hit Open (which will open a terminal that will immediately exit), and only now can you run this app in your original terminal.

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5. sgjohn+3m2[view] [source] 2023-06-28 02:00:46
>>FireBe+6U1
> Then try to run it from the command line. Be told that it "cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified". This is NOT the "is an app downloaded from the Internet, do you wish to run it?" dialog.

Yes, you get the “developer cannot be verified” error if the code isn’t signed. Which is perfectly fine, I don’t see how this is anti-consumer.

It’s $99 for a code signing cert (per developer account) on macOS/iOS, which I believe is less than what they cost on Windows.

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6. gramie+2o2[view] [source] 2023-06-28 02:16:51
>>sgjohn+3m2
Yes, but the dialog doesn't tell you what to do if you do want to run the code. Why would I think that clicking "Open" in the popup menu would do anything different from double-clicking?

Also, an individual Microsoft Store cert is $19 (one-time, not per year), and a company account is $99.

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