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>>chillb+(OP)
We've come a long way since Vera Lynn.

Whether it's for the military or not, I find these women's behavior gross and their followers pathetic. It feels like we're veering into post-feminist territory where attractive, charismatic women can market themselves on the internet and society can't offer a reasonable objection without resorting to social conservatism.

>>slibhb+Md
I agree with you, but I'm surprised that you then go on to write off conservatism seemingly flippantly.

There is no reason to believe that social norms can only change for the better, and in fact a lot of evidence that they aren't moving in a positive direction.

The US right may be overreacting to this by rolling back too many changes and throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

But that doesn't mean that conservatism in general is a bad idea. There is certainly something to be said for assessing the outcomes of a change before running many experiments in parallel without a control group.

>>throwa+DR
> But that doesn't mean that conservatism in general is a bad idea.

It's crazy to me that conservatism has become a dirty word. And I wasn't immune to that either when I was younger. It's only as I've matured that I realized what the word actually means and that conservatism is actually the center on the reactionary-conservative-progressive axis. I also learned that progressivism is mainly ideologies driven from academic circles who consider themselves an intellectual elite that should decide where society is headed and that those circles have been catastrophically wrong in the past with things like eugenics and communism.

>>somedu+mU1
In my experience, conservatism means tax cuts for the wealthy and whatever it takes to sell them. "Family values" were the sales pitch when I was a kid and they could use that against a president who liked to diddle the interns. Nowadays, they seem to be taking a different direction since the leader of their party is a genital-grabbing philanderer, but he did get them their tax cuts.

>>hotpot+fV1
You're equating conservatism with the US republican party.

I've often thought that if I moved to the US I'd have no-one to vote for. Both sides seem to have some insane, out there policy.

>>throwa+WW1
Yeah conservatism as in tax cuts for the middle class and poor and less government services as a result is not a policy in the US lol

>>Shawnj+Vl2
I'm talking about the social policy.

Simplified, republicans seem to have an issue with abortion. Democrats seem to think there are eleven genders.

Both just seem super out there to me as a Brit.

Financial policies aren't really something I care about to the same degree.

>>throwa+vD2
I will say that the left leaning social policy in the US seemed silly to me at first until I became better friends with people who are in those groups and a bit of it is still silly but it does make a lot more sense from their perspective.