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1. nologi+Mz1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 22:12:42
>>amathe+(OP)
The issue of quiting cars is nowadays far from just a matter of values as the article seems to be implying.

Cars are by now a hard to reverse environmental and urban planning disaster across the world. We are stuck with them. As a mode of transport it has grown uncontrollably at the expense of all others (except the airplane) and practically everything has been shaped to accomodate it.

Reversing that development, limiting car traffic to where its really needed is like trying to perform a complete heart and arteries transplant on a living person. Even if there was a will (which there is not) it is not clear if there is a way.

In the best scenario it will be an excruciatingly long transformation (~50 yr) as car oriented cities (or city sections) get slowly deprecated and the car-free or car-lite segments become more desirable, more livable.

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2. rfmc+fX1[view] [source] 2023-05-19 00:36:45
>>nologi+Mz1
What you say isn't possible is being done with the greatest amount of success in Amsterdam, great success in Copenhagen, and it's picking up steam now in Paris. Just to mention a few.

It's a gradual process, and part of the problem is actually embedded on your analogy, it's not like perform a heart and artery transplant, because there's no single action that can solve the problem, but years, and years of multiple, small and large initiatives, to make car dependency goes down.

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3. TylerE+Qc2[view] [source] 2023-05-19 03:14:43
>>rfmc+fX1
Did you really just compare a midsized US citing to freaking Amsterdam? That’s… hopelessly out of touch is about the kindest thing I could say.
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4. bombca+pg2[view] [source] 2023-05-19 03:48:22
>>TylerE+Qc2
Amsterdam is hailed as some perfection, but 60% of Netherlands commutes are by car: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1013713/mode-of-transpor...
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5. Vinnl+xK2[view] [source] 2023-05-19 08:50:02
>>bombca+pg2
That's just work, and still a pretty low percentage. Lots of folk doing grocery shopping, visiting friends, etc. by other means of transportation (cycling primarily). And where cars do intersect with daily life (i.e. not on the highway), they're integrated way more safely into the infrastructure.
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