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1. nologi+Mz1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 22:12:42
>>amathe+(OP)
The issue of quiting cars is nowadays far from just a matter of values as the article seems to be implying.

Cars are by now a hard to reverse environmental and urban planning disaster across the world. We are stuck with them. As a mode of transport it has grown uncontrollably at the expense of all others (except the airplane) and practically everything has been shaped to accomodate it.

Reversing that development, limiting car traffic to where its really needed is like trying to perform a complete heart and arteries transplant on a living person. Even if there was a will (which there is not) it is not clear if there is a way.

In the best scenario it will be an excruciatingly long transformation (~50 yr) as car oriented cities (or city sections) get slowly deprecated and the car-free or car-lite segments become more desirable, more livable.

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2. kibwen+PG1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 22:48:04
>>nologi+Mz1
> Even if there was a will (which there is not) it is not clear if there is a way.

In Boston there's both a will and a way. I haven't owned a car for as long as I've lived here, and the bike lanes are so, so much better now than when I first arrived. Neighboring Cambridge now has laws on the books requiring bike lanes to be added any time that a road is rebuilt. The new light-rail extension through Somerville added a bike path alongside most of its length, connecting the paths along the downtown riverside to the Minuteman bikeway that runs 15 miles out to Bedford.

It can be done. But people have to organize and give a fuck.

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3. goatlo+JM1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 23:20:35
>>kibwen+PG1
So how much has that cut down on car traffic inside Boston?
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4. Karrot+9Q1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 23:41:54
>>goatlo+JM1
It'll only cut down on traffic if all the new arrivals in Boston do not use cars and many older Boston residents also give up their cars. Fundamentally, transit is an investment into infrastructure that has better scaling properties than car-centric development. It's there to absorb further growth in the region.
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5. bombca+9h2[view] [source] 2023-05-19 03:58:18
>>Karrot+9Q1
You don't need to give up the car - you just need to reduce car trips.

The easiest way to do that is reduce commuting trips, as those are very common, but you can reduce trips in other ways, such as allowing more gas stations/convenience stores. If it's a five minute drive to the grocery store but a two minute walk to a 7-11, some of those trips to the grocery store will be replaced with walks to the 7-11.

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