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1. nologi+Mz1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 22:12:42
>>amathe+(OP)
The issue of quiting cars is nowadays far from just a matter of values as the article seems to be implying.

Cars are by now a hard to reverse environmental and urban planning disaster across the world. We are stuck with them. As a mode of transport it has grown uncontrollably at the expense of all others (except the airplane) and practically everything has been shaped to accomodate it.

Reversing that development, limiting car traffic to where its really needed is like trying to perform a complete heart and arteries transplant on a living person. Even if there was a will (which there is not) it is not clear if there is a way.

In the best scenario it will be an excruciatingly long transformation (~50 yr) as car oriented cities (or city sections) get slowly deprecated and the car-free or car-lite segments become more desirable, more livable.

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2. kibwen+PG1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 22:48:04
>>nologi+Mz1
> Even if there was a will (which there is not) it is not clear if there is a way.

In Boston there's both a will and a way. I haven't owned a car for as long as I've lived here, and the bike lanes are so, so much better now than when I first arrived. Neighboring Cambridge now has laws on the books requiring bike lanes to be added any time that a road is rebuilt. The new light-rail extension through Somerville added a bike path alongside most of its length, connecting the paths along the downtown riverside to the Minuteman bikeway that runs 15 miles out to Bedford.

It can be done. But people have to organize and give a fuck.

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3. goatlo+JM1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 23:20:35
>>kibwen+PG1
So how much has that cut down on car traffic inside Boston?
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4. ghaff+gQ1[view] [source] 2023-05-18 23:42:47
>>goatlo+JM1
Traffic is worse than it ever was. I basically avoid going in for activities any longer. Which is fine. But it's mostly not worth going in to meet people in the city in the evening at this point.
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5. brewda+uW1[view] [source] 2023-05-19 00:29:06
>>ghaff+gQ1
Try taking the bus next time.
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6. ghaff+aX1[view] [source] 2023-05-19 00:35:51
>>brewda+uW1
I actually live near commuter rail and will generally take a 90-120 minute total drive + train ride (every hour at most) + subway in for a 9-5 event. It makes zero sense for an evening event. I'll somewhat reluctantly do the 90 minute drive in and hour drive home now and then to go to the theater or some other thing I really want to do.

So it's not as simple as take the bus. (Which doesn't exist.) But that's fine. I mostly just don't go in.

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