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[return to "OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit"]
1. neom+E9[view] [source] 2023-03-01 09:57:52
>>isaacf+(OP)
I find it a little odd that Elon seems to take a swipe at OpenAI any opportunity he gets. If he cares so much about them not making money, maybe he should have put his twitter cash there instead? It's reassuring to me that the two people running policy work at the big AI "startups", Jack Clark (Anthropic) and Miles Brundage (OpenAI, who was hired by Jack iirc), are genuinely good humans. I've known Jack for 10 years and he's for sure a measured and reasonable person who cares about not doing harm. Although I don't know Miles, my understanding is he has similar qualities. If they're gonna be for profit, I feel this is really important.

Edit: Well, I guess these tweets explain the beef well -

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1606642155346612229

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1626516035863212034

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1599291104687374338

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1096987465326374912

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2. lfkdev+Db[view] [source] 2023-03-01 10:16:51
>>neom+E9
"OpenAI was created as an open source (which is why I named it “Open” AI), non-profit company to serve as a counterweight to Google, but now it has become a closed source, maximum-profit company effectively controlled by Microsoft.

Not what I intended at all." - Elon

You can think what you want of Elon, but he is in the right here.

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3. mort96+Fi[view] [source] 2023-03-01 11:25:40
>>lfkdev+Db
I don't understand. He's listed as one of the founders, and I always assumed he had some say. If that's really how he thinks, why wouldn't he have done something?

Do we have any reason to believe this isn't just more empty grifting from him to optically distance himself from a unethical company he profits from?

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4. wodeno+Uk[view] [source] 2023-03-01 11:44:37
>>mort96+Fi
Key word being "had".

He is not part of it any more.

>In 2018, Musk resigned his board seat, citing "a potential future conflict [of interest]" with his role as CEO of Tesla due to Tesla's AI development for self-driving cars, but remained a donor

I don't think he counts as an investor, and I'd imagine he has stopped donating.

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5. atchoo+It[view] [source] 2023-03-01 12:54:38
>>wodeno+Uk
The irony here is that Musk resigned in order to pursue his own closed-source for profit AI businesses and is now complaining about OpenAI being closed-source and for profit AI.

If people are feeling conflicted about who the asshole is in this situation, don't be, they are all morally bankrupt assholes who all already have many lifetimes of unimaginable wealth yet must take ever more. These are not people who should have any power in our world.

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6. dotnet+bk1[view] [source] 2023-03-01 17:19:33
>>atchoo+It
The difference is that Tesla isn't claiming to be open about AI.
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