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>>samwil+(OP)
,,In addition, Apple has been underfunding Safari for the past decade leading to missing critical functionality and a buggy experience for Web App developers thus ensuring that Native Apps, another Apple revenue source, are the only viable solution.''

It's not just funding. Apple changed webapps to delete indexedDB periodically even if they are inatalled on the home screen.

There's no way to have a great experience if you can't store data permanently.

>>xiphia+of
What if you store the data in a back-end, just like native mobile apps?

>>pprota+Kg
Many (most?) native apps also have a local store which is essential to how they function. Having to rely on stable internet for your app to work is annoying for lots of types of apps.

>>mtomwe+ph
Do you really believe most apps rely on local storage? What if I remove the app from my phone and reinstall it later? All my data is gone?

I am pretty sure most apps use AT LEAST iCloud to store data

>>pprota+Dl1
Oh come on, relying on local storage is not the same as not having a backup.

Modern web apps can cache all the files they need to function. They can work offline. So when iOS deletes a web app's data, it doesn't just delete some content and maybe a few settings. It's basically like it deletes the entire app and you have to reinstall it (by opening the web app and re-download all assets that make it work). Sure, the icon is still on your home screen, but the entire app behind it is gone.

It'll also delete things like your login status/tokens/etc, so you have to log in again, maybe the web app has settings that it doesn't want to sync across devices, etc.

I assume that when Web Push hits iOS, notifications will only work as long as you open the web app often enough.