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>>samwil+(OP)
I’m truly scared of Chrome.

It pushes proprietary features, from what I know it starts enforcing some analytics/ads without possibility to block it out and there are other thing too, but since I’m not really an user I don’t track them deeply.

Based on my personal experiences with IE, ActiveX, Adobe Flash and not being able to fill my taxes without Microsoft license (that was around 800$ back then for me not adjusted for inflation) I am afraid the same will happen with Chrome once it gets enough ground.

“Hey, sorry but we can’t sell you toothbrush because you’re using Safari/Firefox/Vivaldi/whatever. Please switch to Chrome and continue with your tracked and dissected purchase route.”

Is there any other anti-Chrome bastion than iOS’ Safari?

Old E2E runner installed Google Chrome on my machine (didn’t even ask but that’s user space on dev machine so whatever) which grew into my MacOS machine. It cannot run in background but there is another daemon that constantly updates it. Multiple times a day I get notification that new service has been installed to run in background.

I’m not sure if that’s something I want to fight for.

>>xlii+5h
Fighting Apple's monopoly behaviour around Safari is not fighting for chrome.

Since you asked, Firefox is the browser to use if you do not want chrome.

>>onli+Xh
I tried to switch to Firefox as my main browser, but sadly the blocker for me was the absolutely horrible battery life on my Macbook Pro M1. It's like it's continuously running a spinning loop or something. It reduced my battery life to somewhere between 4 to 6 hours. I have since switched to Vivaldi (which is based on Chromium unfortunately), but I will probably switch back to Firefox if those battery issues are ever resolved.

>>kivle+9s
If Firefox will focus _everything_ on making FF on MacOS reduce their batter consumption to the minimum possible (less than Safari should be the goal) then I think this is the only _winning strategy_ for FF not going into irrelevance.

not sure it is also possible to compete on battery performance with Safari but that is the only one I see. Drop any other project, any initiative and just focus on this.

Why:

1. Because there is a big chunk of developers who code web on MacOS thus winning them means what they build will run on MacOS

2. Becoming default for this group of technical people means they will recommend it for their families and more important install it for their young kids laptops

3. Can do it with Google money :)

>>gls2ro+3S
There are approximately as many Firefox users are there are MacOS users, on the order of 200 million users. In fact, there are probably more Firefox users than MacOS users. Concrete numbers are hard to come by, but you have to take optimistic estimates of MacOS's userbase to match moderate estimates of Firefox's userbase. If Firefox is a global also-ran, then so is MacOS.