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1. c54+C6[view] [source] 2022-12-16 02:17:36
>>prawn+(OP)
The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic.

It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

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2. cmh89+mn[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:46:57
>>c54+C6
The people who cheered Musk for his "pro free speech" attitude don't actually believe or want free speech. They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like.

See the terrorist attacks against Drag Queens.

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3. ditona+9u[view] [source] 2022-12-16 04:32:53
>>cmh89+mn
I don't know why it's so impossible to believe there are people who truly do want free speech.

I wasn't sure if Musk was going to deliver it, but I tried to remain open-minded. I did think previous Twitter management leaned left with some admittedly difficult moderation decisions, but obviously I'm finding out that Musk is even less supportive of true free speech.

Ironically this banning of Mastodon links is the #1 thing pushing me to start exploring Mastodon or other platforms.

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4. drcong+Xi1[view] [source] 2022-12-16 11:32:29
>>ditona+9u
> I don't know why it's so impossible to believe there are people who truly do want free speech.

Anyone intelligent enough to think it through knows it's a paradox, so anyone who truly does want free speech clearly hasn't actually thought it through. They exist, but nobody should take them seriously.

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5. bheadm+JA1[view] [source] 2022-12-16 14:00:21
>>drcong+Xi1
> Anyone intelligent enough to think it through knows it's a paradox

I don't, so I assume I'm not that intelligent. Would you please explain to me how is it a paradox?

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6. coldpi+OW1[view] [source] 2022-12-16 15:48:07
>>bheadm+JA1
Sure. Speech can, itself, restrict speech. "I have a gun in my pocket and I will shoot anyone who disagrees with me." It's just speech, but it restricts others' willingness to speak. If you allow all speech, some speakers will use that tool to restrict others' speech, which means not all speech is actually allowed. "Free speech" is a paradox.
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7. drcong+892[view] [source] 2022-12-16 16:39:43
>>coldpi+OW1
Perfect, thanks.
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