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1. 4bpp+65[view] [source] 2022-12-15 12:25:25
>>dredmo+(OP)
Surely, if the next Stable Diffusion had to be trained from a dataset that has been purged of images that were not under a permissive license, this would at most be a minor setback on AI's road to obsoleting painting that is more craft than art. Do artists not realise this (perhaps because they have some kind of conceit along the lines of "it only can produce good-looking images because it is rearranging pieces of some Real Artists' works it was trained on"), are they hoping to inspire overshoot legislation (perhaps something following the music industry model in several countries: AI-generated images assumed pirated until proven otherwise, with protection money to be paid to an artists' guild?), or is this just a desperate rearguard action?
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2. Tepix+N5[view] [source] 2022-12-15 12:29:40
>>4bpp+65
Imagine you are an artist and you have developed your unique style.

Would you mind if AI starts creating art like yours?

What if your clients tell you they bought the AI generated art instead of yours?

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3. Brushf+a8[view] [source] 2022-12-15 12:41:32
>>Tepix+N5
Imagine you are a startup business owner and you have developed a unique product or service.

And then someone comes along and competes with you?

No one is bothered by competition in markets.

Why do we have more or less empathy of this type for some professions?

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4. onetri+vf[view] [source] 2022-12-15 13:19:07
>>Brushf+a8
To quote another comment but "Instead of replacing crappy jobs and freeing up peoples time to enjoy their life, we’re actually automating enjoyable pursuits."

I think this isn't just a simple discussion on competition and copyright, I think it's a much larger question on humanity. It just seems like potentially a bleak future if enjoyable and creative pursuits are buried and even surpassed by automation.

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5. mtrowe+bM[view] [source] 2022-12-15 15:33:48
>>onetri+vf
If the pursuit is enjoyable, it should continue to be enjoyable as a hobby, no?

Meanwhile, where is my levy of custom artists willing to do free commission work for me? It’s enjoyable, right?

I see a lot of discussion about money and copyright, and little to no discussion about the individual whose life is enriched by access to these tools and technologies.

As for your bleak future… will that even come to pass? I don’t know. Maybe it depends on your notion of “surpass”, and what that looks like.

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6. onetri+BO1[view] [source] 2022-12-15 20:18:12
>>mtrowe+bM
> If the pursuit is enjoyable, it should continue to be enjoyable as a hobby, no?

I think for most people the enjoyable and fulfilling part of life is feeling useful or having some expression and connection through their work. There's definitely some people who can create in a vacuum with no witness and be fulfilled, but I think there's a deep need for human appreciation for most people.

> As for your bleak future… will that even come to pass? I don’t know. Maybe it depends on your notion of “surpass”, and what that looks like.

I don't know either, maybe it will be fine. Maybe this will pass like the transition from traditional to digital. But something about this feels different...like it's actually stealing the creative process rather than just a paradigm shift.

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