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1. kweing+v6[view] [source] 2022-10-16 20:27:21
>>davidg+(OP)
I’ve noticed that people tend to disapprove of AI trained on their profession’s data, but are usually indifferent or positive about other applications of AI.

For example, I know artists who are vehemently against DALL-E, Stable Diffusion, etc. and regard it as stealing, but they view Copilot and GPT-3 as merely useful tools. I also know software devs who are extremely excited about AI art and GPT-3 but are outraged by Copilot.

For myself, I am skeptical of intellectual property in the first place. I say go for it.

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2. tpxl+O7[view] [source] 2022-10-16 20:39:26
>>kweing+v6
When Joe Rando plays a song from 1640 on a violin he gets a copyright claim on Youtube. When Jane Rando uses devtools to check a website source code she gets sued.

When Microsoft steals all code on their platform and sells it, they get lauded. When "Open" AI steals thousands of copyrighted images and sells them, they get lauded.

I am skeptical of imaginary property myself, but fuck this one set of rules for the poor, another set of rules for the masses.

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3. insani+ib[view] [source] 2022-10-16 21:08:43
>>tpxl+O7
> Joe Rando plays a song from 1640 on a violin he gets a copyright claim on Youtube

That can't possibly be a valid claim, right? AFAIK copyright is "gone" after the original author dies + ~70 years. Before fairly recently it was even shorter. Something from 1640 surely can't be claimed under copyright protection. There are much more recent changes where that might not be the case, but 1640?

> When Jane Rando uses devtools to check a website source code she gets sued.

Again, that doesn't sound like a valid suit. Surely she would win? In the few cases I've heard of where suits like this are brought against someone they've easily won them.

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4. Rodeoc+Qb[view] [source] 2022-10-16 21:12:54
>>insani+ib
This isn't a legal copyright claim, it's a "YouTube" copyright claim which is entirely owned and enforced by YouTube.
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5. insani+pc[view] [source] 2022-10-16 21:17:53
>>Rodeoc+Qb
OK but then we're just talking about content moderation, which seems like a separate issue. I think using "YouTube copyright claim" as a proxy for "legal copyright claim" is more to the parent's point, especially since that's how YouTube purports the claim to work. Otherwise it feels irrelevant.
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6. lupire+Cf[view] [source] 2022-10-16 21:51:53
>>insani+pc
YouTube does this moderation in order to avoid legal pressure from copyright holders, as in

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacom_International_Inc._v.....

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