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>>rvz+(OP)
I am the only one who would have a hard time to collaborate on a project where the "collaborators" start their message with

> You need to realize that

> (a) reality trumps fantasy

?

>>rat998+94
Then it's probably not the place for you, or people with thin skin that don't want to deal with that kind of tone/communication. If they lose out on talent because of it, that's their loss. Not every project has to be perfect and all-inclusive to the entire world of developers, and I'm okay with that.

>>zo1+g8
It’s crazy to think that advocating for reasonable, non-toxic people to work with receives this kind response.

Inclusivity and non-hostile work environments should not be considered “perfect” and “all-inclusive”. They should be basic. The default. The lowest bar possible.

>>myname+Y8
>work environments

It’s not a “work environment”. You can’t report Linus to HR. If you have a problem with him, you can fork the kernel and convince others to follow you. Then you’ll have a mailing list where you can ban Linus for his style. Good luck!

>>aaaaaa+ie
Yes because if he were at any company, he’d have been fired. Decades ago.

Just because it’s not an official “work environment” per your definition does not mean it isn’t hostile or intolerable were it actually one.

But actually countering that point is a lot harder, isn’t it?

>>myname+eg
Ok, it's intolerable for you how he communicates on the Linux Kernel Mailing List. Are you anyway subscribed to the LKML? Are you kernel developer? Are you developer anyway? Who you are that you want to tell a community how they have to communicate? Why your opinion should matter for this community?