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1. mid-ki+H5[view] [source] 2022-09-24 17:38:51
>>tonyst+(OP)
Yeah, no. Maybe with old laptops, but newer laptops still have their fair share of issues. When I bought my thinkpad A485 kernels wouldn't boot without additional parameters, the graphics would freeze at times and cause a hardlock, sleep and hibernation have been fixed and broken again intermittently over several kernel versions, the wifi card's AP mode started causing segfaults in kernel 5.2 due to the driver's rewrite but has since been fixed, the fnlock key LED didn't update properly, which I spent a while debugging and submitted a kernel patch for, and while over the years the fingerprint scanner has been implemented, it's a pain to install and support for fingerprint scanning in linux is still in a very sorry state. Oh and bluetooth still can't connect more than one device at a time, so I had to buy a dongle to connect two joycon controllers.

Granted, I've always had these kinds of issues with new laptops, especially when it came to proprietary nvidia or AMD graphics (before AMDGPU) and I agree it's improved a lot, but I still need to tell people that there's caveats with some (especially newer) laptops.

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2. pessim+ql[view] [source] 2022-09-24 19:32:04
>>mid-ki+H5
Why would anybody expect that new hardware that has to be reverse engineered and for which no Linux drivers are provided to work out of the box as soon is it is available? It's an impossible expectation, and also one that no other OS would have a chance of fulfilling unless hardware vendors specifically catered to them.

It's like asking for a book review of a book that hasn't been published. Yes, other people have published reviews, but they got advance copies and a supplementary synopsis from the publisher six months ago.

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3. coryrc+4n[view] [source] 2022-09-24 19:43:09
>>pessim+ql
Windows users don't have to reverse engineer anything before their hardware works.
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4. autoex+Ln[view] [source] 2022-09-24 19:46:57
>>coryrc+4n
that's because new hardware is made to work for windows. Few companies care about linux drivers
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5. encryp+nr[view] [source] 2022-09-24 20:19:43
>>autoex+Ln
Almost any hardware you get today will have standard components with Linux support. Can you give some more examples of which companies and what components you're referring to?
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6. Gigach+eO[view] [source] 2022-09-24 23:46:45
>>encryp+nr
RGB control is quite spotty. Finger print readers are almost entirely non functioning. Often webcams on brand new laptops do not work. Brightness control for OLED often doesn't work. Suspend and sleep still seems to be an issue, especially with something relating to "modern sleep" where the OS remains functional for things like internet access while sleeping.

I think largely these days people just plug less stuff in, printers, scanners, other odd gadgets are less common so its really just USB mass storage devices and video outputs getting physically plugged in. Otherwise everything else is controlled over wifi with a phone app.

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