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>>todsac+(OP)
> Much of the original hardware bring-up was done by Ubuntu Touch. Mobian developers built the telephony stack via their eg25-manager project. And in my role for the postmarketOS distribution, I developed the camera stack.

> Manjaro Linux has been largely absent from these efforts.

> In some cases the Manjaro involvement actually causes extra workload for the developers by shipping known broken versions of software and pointing to the developers for support. Which is why https://dont-ship.it/ was started.

Other distributions like Mobian and Ubuntu Touch are miles ahead that broken thing that Pine chose to adopt as their default distro.

When I got my PinePhone, nothing was working, not even the home screen! So I looked for help on the forums and people were like "LOL no one uses that, just install Mobian or Ubuntu Touch". I tried both, and they were actually pretty OK, I could more or less daily drive the PinePhone!

I think the main reason people repeat that the PinePhone is not ready for use as a daily driver, is that the default distro is completely broken. Pine64 are shooting themselves in the foot in a spectacular way.

>>mastaz+J42
"Other distributions like Mobian and Ubuntu Touch are miles ahead that broken thing that Pine chose to adopt as their default distro."

I really like Manjaro - on my desktop. So initially I was very happy that they went with it, but since manjaro is desktop focused - it is a great mystery WHY the choosed it at all and not indeed went with Mobian and co?