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>>themgt+(OP)
I've never heard of "commonsense.news" before, but it is by Bari Weiss[0] who is trying to create an "anti-cancel culture," "anti-woke" University called the University of Austin[1]. Her Wikipedia on her history kind of speaks for itself, in particular the "2017–2020" section[0].

Why does this matter? Because most of the articles claims are based on "spoke to us" quotes from anonymous staffers which cannot be independently verified. So it falls to the reputation of those publishing and their journalistic integrity/process, and at that point I leave it to you to make up your own mind.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bari_Weiss#2017%E2%80%932020:_...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Austin

>>Someon+87
On HN we try to go by article quality, not site quality: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so.... The author names here are probably more important than whoever owns the site. Their credentials are on the line if the sources they claim to be quoting are made up. That doesn't prove anything, of course, but one's always guessing with these things, and readers need to make up their own minds.

I understand the argument you're making, and it's not an obvious call, but I think it comes with more downside than upside, at least for HN. It's a trope of tribal internet argument (I mean in general—not talking about you here) to follow a "DAG of shame" in which you hop from any node to the most shameful associated thing, with the intention of discrediting the node from which you started. The problem is that each of those hops loses a lot of information, and one ends up in places that aren't particularly relevant, like whatever that university project is.

What's bad about this for HN is that it makes threads more generic, predictable, and repetitive. It also polarizes discussion along the most intense axis. All of this makes discussion less interesting and more inflammatory.

So while it's not an obvious call (more like 60-40 than 80-20) I think we're better off as a community to resist the habit of replacing topic X with the biggest or most shameful other-topic-Y that the dots connect to. It's not that there's no value in it, but it's the wrong move, given what we're trying to optimize for (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...).

>>dang+KQ
I don't read the parent comment as calling for Bari Weiss's substack to be banned from the site, but rather just providing some context about what the site is. I'd have maybe pointed out more about the contrarian impulse of the site, and how that interacts with this topic (being contrarian about public health policy surrounding COVID is a click magnet), but either way it seems like a colorably valuable comment.

If the comment opened with something like "I stopped reading at commonsense.news because Bari Weiss is bad", that'd be a different matter, but they have a substantive critique of the actual article.

Given the weak sourcing, it feels like this article, in particular, flunks the "divisive subjects require more thought and substance" test.

I loathe Bari Weiss, so, grain of salt on all this.