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1. retube+ue[view] [source] 2022-02-18 13:07:58
>>Geeket+(OP)
All I ever hear is horror stories about this place: environmental destruction, structural racism, serious abuse of human rights, culturally hyper conservative, corrupt legal system, plus it's absurdly hot. I can't believe anyone would voluntarily go there, seems like hell on earth.
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2. ycombi+Mf[view] [source] 2022-02-18 13:18:31
>>retube+ue
Because almost no one who moves to Dubai for a middle class job will ever experience any of the things you’ve listed except for the heat.

What they do experience is earning lots of tax-free money, and a vibrant city life. Obviously those negatives are all present but less of a threat than one might think from the outside.

Perhaps that seems like too much of a risk to some people. But to others, who aren’t living in “heaven-on-earth” first world countries it’s an easy gamble to make.

(Culturally hyper-conservative is especially hilarious for anyone who has been to a Dubai brunch.)

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3. morale+lr[view] [source] 2022-02-18 14:25:56
>>ycombi+Mf
>no one who moves to Dubai for a middle class job will ever experience any of the things you’ve listed

Sorry, but that is just not true. You're always one mistake away from losing all your rights and going through a miserable experience. This could happen to anyone who is basically not royalty or extremely high ranks, I've experienced it first-hand.

Everyone knows this, so people are quite afraid to mess up, at any level. Ask any foreigner who has lived there (not just visited) for a while.

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4. mbg721+yt[view] [source] 2022-02-18 14:35:40
>>morale+lr
How does it compare to Singapore in that aspect? I get the same impression there when people talk about how it all works really well until it doesn't.
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5. logicc+gv[view] [source] 2022-02-18 14:42:48
>>mbg721+yt
Dubai's much more honest about what it is; an absolutely monarchy that doesn't pretend to be a democracy. As long as you don't piss off the king or the locals, you're pretty much free to mind your own business and do whatever you want, especially if you're indirectly contributing to the king's real estate portfolio/the city's development. Singapore on the other hand is run by hall monitor types who believe they should have a say in every little aspect of how you live your life.

Poor South Asian migrant workers are also treated better in Dubai. In Singapore they have a separate class of work visa with very limited rights, and during covid they were locked down in their worker dormitories for over a year, unable to interact with the rest of society.

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6. mbg721+MI[view] [source] 2022-02-18 15:39:58
>>logicc+gv
Fwiw, a high-school friend of mine had a t-shirt that said "Singapore: It's a Fine City!" and underneath, it listed various legal offenses (like gum-chewing) and their fines.
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7. bduers+Hx1[view] [source] 2022-02-18 19:52:34
>>mbg721+MI
IIRC you can chew gum in singapore, you just can't buy or sell it (similar to weed laws in certain U.S. states).
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8. Valent+4Z1[view] [source] 2022-02-18 22:27:36
>>bduers+Hx1
Singapore made a concession to allow Wrigley's sugar-free gum and nicotine gum when they entered into a free trade agreement with the US [1], but it's overpriced and rarely in stock at pharmacies.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB108629672446328324

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