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1. cronix+Te[view] [source] 2021-12-16 17:29:50
>>beezle+(OP)
So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.
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2. joseph+7f[view] [source] 2021-12-16 17:30:29
>>cronix+Te
Unfortunately, there's one very big reason you'll need Windows 11: that Windows 10 won't get security updates forever. After October 14th, 2025, you'll need to "upgrade" to it to stay secure.
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3. Initia+Nk[view] [source] 2021-12-16 17:51:46
>>joseph+7f
That gives me four years for the tools that lock me to Windows to decide to port to literally any other OS.
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4. willis+0p[view] [source] 2021-12-16 18:08:16
>>Initia+Nk
I'm not old and I have lived to see this sentiment come and go at least twice before. We're still on Windows.
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5. Anthon+DI[view] [source] 2021-12-16 19:36:23
>>willis+0p
> I'm not old and I have lived to see this sentiment come and go at least twice before. We're still on Windows.

In that time we've seen Microsoft concede the mobile market to iOS and Android and the server market to Linux and Google Docs manage to take a major chunk out of MS Office.

Microsoft is still extremely profitable, but it's not because of Windows anymore. Which is why they're now comfortable risking defection by screwing over the Windows customer more than ever. But that's what happens at the end, not the middle.

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6. hakfoo+rX6[view] [source] 2021-12-18 18:01:18
>>Anthon+DI
It feels like, to an extent, Microsoft was all but admitting they were giving away Windows for home users (how many of us are still on perpetually upgraded Win7 licenses?) and betting (the desktop software sector) on commercial licensing and Office.

I notice a lot of OEM PCs, for example, come with an Office 365 trial install. I'm sure the OEM deal is "Windows is 30 cents cheaper if you include the trial."

But if the OEM is already installing Ubuntu or whatever, they 1) no longer need to negotiate to shave pennies off the Windows license and 2) have an office suite pre-installed, potentially capturing a large number of the easy customers who'd click on the first thing available.

How does Microsoft keep that sales channel open?

I can't imagine them going the road of the shovelware antivirus vendors and outright paying OEMs for presence. But I could see them packaging up a cut down "Linux Subservices for Windows" product. This would be basically a blessed virtual machine package, which OEMs would be willing to include-- or maybe even pay a token sum for-- because, well, people still want to run their games and legacy software. More importantly, it's a way to get millions of people to install a MS-provided package on their desktops, which could include cross-promotional offers and telemetry. (Yes, there will be the inevitable shut-up packages from third parties, but they have those for Windows already).

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