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1. gramma+Oh[view] [source] 2021-11-11 01:01:24
>>lxm+(OP)
> Los Angeles and San Diego Unified — the state’s two largest school districts, with some 660,000 students combined — have recently directed teachers to base academic grades on whether students have learned what was expected of them during a course — and not penalize them for behavior, work habits and missed deadlines.

That lesson is going to serve them well in the workplace.

Teach students that they are entitled to bad behavior, bad work habits, and deadlines? Fuck deadlines

The next generation is going to have a hard time competing in the global workplace against cultures that do enforce reasonable consequences for fucking up.

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2. bthesh+jo[view] [source] 2021-11-11 01:56:41
>>gramma+Oh
When I fucked up in middle/high school, it wasn't because I was lazy. It was because I had no idea how to deal with stress/anxiety/deadlines. I had teachers who luckily were empathetic and I grew up eventually. I was lucky - I have fantastic parents in a loving, stable marriage and my mental health on the whole was not extraordinarily bad.

Many kids are not that lucky. In my experience, the kids (my peers) who were doing drastically badly weren't lazy. They had something else going on - a bad home life, or serious mental health issues.

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3. lmm+Bs[view] [source] 2021-11-11 02:44:09
>>bthesh+jo
Dealing with stress/anxiety/deadlines is a vital life skill. At some point people have to face failures and consequences (even if the failure was "not their fault"!) and learn to handle them; if they don't do it in school they'll be doing it for the first time in college, or in the workplace, or with governmental requirements.
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4. kqr+hK[view] [source] 2021-11-11 06:07:36
>>lmm+Bs
Sure, but are you really arguing that getting bad grades is a good way to learn how to deal with anxiety? Do you have evidence for that statement?
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5. Crypto+xN[view] [source] 2021-11-11 06:47:22
>>kqr+hK
The grading holds you accountable, and places pressure to do better.
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6. kqr+FQ[view] [source] 2021-11-11 07:21:15
>>Crypto+xN
A person who is stressed or anxious is already feeling pressure. What makes you think they need more?
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7. Crypto+zm1[view] [source] 2021-11-11 12:48:31
>>kqr+FQ
Well you learn to deal with it by being subjected to it. If you treat people like they're fragile, and don't apply this kind of pressure, they will grow up as fragile.
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8. kqr+Vm1[view] [source] 2021-11-11 12:51:43
>>Crypto+zm1
This is fascinating and new to me. What's your evidence?
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9. lmm+jB3[view] [source] 2021-11-12 03:03:44
>>kqr+Vm1
In practically every sphere of human activity people are unskilled and get better through practice. Why would handling stress/anxiety be any different?
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