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[return to "An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: the origin of Covid-19"]
1. motoha+5l1[view] [source] 2021-09-19 20:04:18
>>alwill+(OP)
Working closely to the issue on a couple of fronts, I think debate about the disease origin is a distraction from the real debate everyone has a stake in, which has been the policy response and the legitimacy of lockdowns, vax passports, mandates for health status disclosure, and discrimination based on health information.

Who cares if it came from a lab, there are zero consequences to anyone whether it did or not, and it's the least impactful detail of what has happened. "Allowing," debate on the disease origin is a cynical switcheroo.

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2. tomoha+mn1[view] [source] 2021-09-19 20:22:12
>>motoha+5l1
The worldwide community is large. We can do many things all at the same time. Investigating the source is not a distraction.

We now have documentary evidence that Fauci authorized money to be channeled through various organizations to labs in Wuhan. These documents also link people involved with this activity to the very same people who assured us through letters to a highly respected journal that the lab leak theory was completely wrong.

This brings to mind many questions, but do people act like this when they are not covering things up? This bears investigating.

It's unlikely that the people investigating will be the same ones developing new drugs or treatments for covid.

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3. stormb+Nq1[view] [source] 2021-09-19 20:47:32
>>tomoha+mn1
> It's unlikely that the people investigating will be the same ones developing new drugs or treatments for covid.

Maybe not, but maybe they should instead be investigating how policy failed us so catastrophically around the world after it escaped its original area.

When the world obsesses over its origin, it seems to be blatant deflection over failures at home.

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4. noptd+4s1[view] [source] 2021-09-19 20:59:29
>>stormb+Nq1
The parent already addressed this concern:

>The worldwide community is large. We can do many things all at the same time. Investigating the source is not a distraction.

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5. stormb+DA1[view] [source] 2021-09-19 22:08:42
>>noptd+4s1
I'm not sure I agree with the sibling comment about what the evils are, exactly, but this is the very thing I'm addressing -- that it isn't a given that we're doing multiple things at the same time.

This is a great argument when we're talking about, for example, people working on making phones vs. people working on cancer research -- their efforts aren't interchangeable.

But political capital to examine policy failures? That's a limited precious resource that is all too often redirected towards frivolous, self-interested pursuits by people who are unwilling to examine their own.

China is an easy scapegoat here. You see it all over this thread. Many many americans talking about Chinese policy while their country pretended nothing was happening for months and likely facilitated the virus' travel throughout the US and the world as one of the main epicenters of travel.

American politicians (as well as others'), as well as the beaurocracies under their control, love nothing more than people looking at anyone but them when something goes wrong and they will take advantage of it.

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