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1. random+zE[view] [source] 2021-03-28 22:38:10
>>femfos+(OP)
Female founder friend (non tech space) was in a female focused incubator / competition. She got only one set of somewhat critical feedback - ie, lacks experience in X and Y which are key in product space Z.

She posted a comment on her social media focusing on this feedback as "criticism" that came from a sexist guy "of course". It was pretty easy to draw the line to the three panelists, one of whom was a guy. Ouch.

In a previous life, I'd worked in a awesome (female led!) product company. While I had no experience prior to this, I quickly realized that the product itself and its quality etc was almost irrelevant to success, the X and Y mentioned by the male panelist was unfortunately everything, which you'd only know if you were in the space itself. The female led company I worked for was bought out by a (male led) competitor, who then using much strong x and y skills - cleaned up. Company I worked for got basically nothing.

Fast forward - my friends business not doing so great, she asks me for feedback. I said nothing other than enthusiasm. Partly because I was really enthusiastic - she'd put her heart into this project. But her comment on social was in my mind - I had no desire to be next sexist guy "shooting down" an idea

She's out of the business I think mostly. Anyways, this parallels the take of the article.

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2. bastaw+XJ[view] [source] 2021-03-28 23:18:11
>>random+zE
> lacks experience in X and Y which are key in product space Z.

Obviously you didn't post the feedback, but I wonder how this was phrased. If the feedback was "improve X and Y", I think I sympathize with the panelist. The feedback was solicited! If it was framed as "unlikely to succeed because inexperienced in X and Y" then I think that crossed a line from critical feedback to a somewhat demeaning comment, even if it was right.

Regardless of how it actually played out, there's a good lesson here that you should be mindful of how your communication is understood. It's not enough to be right, it's important to speak in a way that makes sure what you're conveying is delivered in a useful way.

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3. daniel+yL[view] [source] 2021-03-28 23:29:08
>>bastaw+XJ
There are better and worse ways to communicate, sure. But fundamentally, you cannot control how people interpret the words that you say.
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4. bastaw+NY[view] [source] 2021-03-29 01:18:49
>>daniel+yL
That doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to be sure you're communicating thoughtfully.
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5. snicks+B01[view] [source] 2021-03-29 01:34:44
>>bastaw+NY
In general, but the risk-reward ration is now way off, as the author of the article mentions, so why risk it if you potentially face harsh repercussions.
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6. bastaw+Qd1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 04:07:17
>>snicks+B01
If you've been thoughtful in your reply, there should be no risk of repercussions. Post your message publicly. If you were thoughtful, no reasonable person should be able to look at your communication and fault you. If you weren't thoughtful, you deserve the scorn for proving the point of the person who called you out. If you're not confident that you can be a decent and empathetic person in your communication with others, then yes, I suppose that's a good reason to avoid putting yourself in a position where your foot can enter your mouth.
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7. Zephyr+mm1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 06:02:07
>>bastaw+Qd1
This is a fantasy. For every person who thinks you're being reasonable, it's highly likely there's another one who takes offense of some kind.

Even if only 5-10% of people took offense, it's not worth it to speak your mind.

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8. matkon+0w1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 08:03:40
>>Zephyr+mm1
Even if 0.1% of people will try to start witch hunt it is still better to avoid answering.
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9. prawn+mW1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 12:07:21
>>matkon+0w1
This reminds me of the idea of physical risk for someone with a lifespan of a 1,000 years. If you're 60 with an average lifespan of 70, your actions are risking 10 years of life. If you're 60 with a potential lifespan of 1,000 years, you're effectively risking everything and might be inclined to be more risk averse.

When public discourse magnifies the risk of your comments, you'll tend to be risk averse also. Once upon a time, your opinion would be spoken almost all the time, and perhaps put in a letter rarely. The effort for anyone to raise hell over a minor quibble would involve spreading the word, and doing so enough to find the rare people with a tendency to join you. Go back decades and that is infinitely less likely.

Now, chances are your comment is in writing or recorded, and even if it isn't, the quibbler can broadcast their version of events to increasingly wider circles in seconds, at no cost and with virtually no effort.

I delete half of the comments I start writing online, thinking "What's the point? At best, one person appreciates it. At worst, thousands want to argue."

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10. saagar+db8[view] [source] 2021-03-31 07:17:43
>>prawn+mW1
This is why 20-somethings are extraordinarily risk-averse ;)
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11. prawn+tb8[view] [source] 2021-03-31 07:21:21
>>saagar+db8
Yeah, that's often raised in the hypothetical. Typically, older people with the least remaining life to risk are the least rash with their decision making!
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