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>>gorman+(OP)
Not mentioned in the headline: When the user is _not_ logged in, iOS collects "location" whereas Android does not.

I am actually a little surprised that iOS would gather this information. What use would it serve?

>>mankyd+P2
It's possible this is referring to this feature: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/12/apple-explains-mysteriou...

Generally speaking, Apple is drastically better about location services privacy. For instance, Apple Maps does not tie any location data nor direction requests to your Apple ID, and regularly rotates identifiers for devices used by the service: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212039

>>ocdtre+x4
That link is returning "429 Too Many Requests." What feature is it you're referring to?

>>6gvONx+pd
There's an Ultra Wideband radio in the iPhone 11 and newer that isn't legal to use in all countries. Apple uses a location request sometimes just to determine if the device can legally run that radio or not.

>>ocdtre+se
If that's the case, they wouldn't need to report the location back to themselves, would they? The phone would simply check its coordinates, and turn it on or off.

>>mankyd+Vl
I don’t think anyone is saying that iOS does report back to Apple (and I don’t think there is any evidence that iOS does this).

The original concern was caused because iOS would still activate location services and display the icon during these checks, even if you had turned location services off completely in settings.

>>avianl+kn
That is exactly what the article is talking about.

>>mankyd+Wp
I’m not sure which article your looking at, but neither the OP article, or the Kerbs article suggests that Apple is collecting location data derived from location services on a phone and sending it back to the mothership.

The OP article suggests that IP data from the uploads could be used to estimate location, and their table has a “location” column. But that column seems to be referencing the fact that iOS reports when location services are turned on and off, rather than a specific location derived from the phones sensors.

This is of course ignoring opt-in telemetry which is used to improve maps etc. Which obviously involves sending your location back to Apple.