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1. Der_Ei+54[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:05:39
>>femfos+(OP)
Reminds me of the phenomenon recorded of men avoiding women after the original #metoo thing.

Part of this is that I think that men feel they are walking on egg shells. The kinds of male assertiveness that my wife found attractive when she met me also can leave women who aren't into this assertiveness feeling harassed.

I feel that we need to be clear more about what is "desirable" masculinity it "desirable assertiveness" vs its toxic counterparts. Failure to do this will essentially neuter men over the long term - and it will lead to "men clamming up" or worse, a significant surge in the number of men who "go their own way" be it in the job or at home in their personal life.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/29/men-wom...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/men-are-afraid-to-mentor-f...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellevate/2019/01/09/dear-sir-do...

https://kelainetaylor.medium.com/to-the-men-whose-response-t...

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2. blabit+Q7[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:26:07
>>Der_Ei+54
I'll probably get downvoted for this but I think desirable vs toxic masculinity tends to depend on whether the woman in question finds the man in question attractive.
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3. Der_Ei+r9[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:34:54
>>blabit+Q7
Lookism is the final -ism that lacks a social justice movement. Incels and disfigured people are the closest thing to the "underclass" of physical attractiveness.

Yes, many time the distinction in the margins between toxic and desirable masculinity is partially based on the attractiveness of the person in question.

For what it's worth - men and women are equally bad in regards to lookism. I think we need to simply start explicitly saying that we shouldn't discriminate because someone is ugly. If RMS were as attractive as Micheal foucault, he wouldn't get in trouble for those age of consent beliefs (foucault, an attractive leftist, famously defended lowering the age of consent)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_...

No one wants to cancel foucault because him and other french post modernists are the intellectual foundation for today's "wokeism"

A lot of the double standard is due to RMS being fat and ugly. No other explanation.

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4. MeinBl+Qd[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:54:37
>>Der_Ei+r9
Or sodomizing a minor like roman polanski...
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5. DC1350+ke1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 04:15:53
>>MeinBl+Qd
Or Alan Turing and Leonardo da Vinci
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