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1. Der_Ei+54[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:05:39
>>femfos+(OP)
Reminds me of the phenomenon recorded of men avoiding women after the original #metoo thing.

Part of this is that I think that men feel they are walking on egg shells. The kinds of male assertiveness that my wife found attractive when she met me also can leave women who aren't into this assertiveness feeling harassed.

I feel that we need to be clear more about what is "desirable" masculinity it "desirable assertiveness" vs its toxic counterparts. Failure to do this will essentially neuter men over the long term - and it will lead to "men clamming up" or worse, a significant surge in the number of men who "go their own way" be it in the job or at home in their personal life.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/29/men-wom...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/men-are-afraid-to-mentor-f...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellevate/2019/01/09/dear-sir-do...

https://kelainetaylor.medium.com/to-the-men-whose-response-t...

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2. oblio+r4[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:07:55
>>Der_Ei+54
I guess there's going to be a calibration period. The pendulum was stuck, it's started swinging, and the first few swings are completely out of whack. We'll get there, eventually.
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3. mrweas+dg[view] [source] 2021-03-28 20:06:08
>>oblio+r4
Some very real issue have been highlighted in the last few years, issues that we really should have dealt with decades ago and I think you're right, there's currently an overreaction from society. That's will correct it self, even if some may still not like where we end up.

Sadly if you're concerned with these overreaction, and voice those concerns, you will be labelled as being against the chance. You quickly learn to shut up and just wait it out.

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4. oblio+Ci[view] [source] 2021-03-28 20:19:17
>>mrweas+dg
> Sadly if you're concerned with these overreaction, and voice those concerns, you will be labelled as being against the change. You quickly learn to shut up and just wait it out.

This is a smart move for any kind of group/mob move/reaction, by the way. In much more extreme cases you'd be the smart, polite, but dead guy in the crowd, otherwise.

Crowds as a whole are rash and emotional, you can't reason with them. There's a reason Animal Farm had 10 word slogans, at most ;-)

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