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1. Der_Ei+54[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:05:39
>>femfos+(OP)
Reminds me of the phenomenon recorded of men avoiding women after the original #metoo thing.

Part of this is that I think that men feel they are walking on egg shells. The kinds of male assertiveness that my wife found attractive when she met me also can leave women who aren't into this assertiveness feeling harassed.

I feel that we need to be clear more about what is "desirable" masculinity it "desirable assertiveness" vs its toxic counterparts. Failure to do this will essentially neuter men over the long term - and it will lead to "men clamming up" or worse, a significant surge in the number of men who "go their own way" be it in the job or at home in their personal life.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/29/men-wom...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/men-are-afraid-to-mentor-f...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellevate/2019/01/09/dear-sir-do...

https://kelainetaylor.medium.com/to-the-men-whose-response-t...

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2. oblio+r4[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:07:55
>>Der_Ei+54
I guess there's going to be a calibration period. The pendulum was stuck, it's started swinging, and the first few swings are completely out of whack. We'll get there, eventually.
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3. lupire+n7[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:24:06
>>oblio+r4
There's no reason to assume that. The system could be destabilized because while a pendulum with two sides has a stable a world with many many competing interests and nonlinear feedback systems might not.
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4. oblio+V8[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:32:36
>>lupire+n7
Thankfully for us, men, apparently we're about 50% of the population and you know, traditionally, we've held 99% of the power in the world.

I'm not super worried that we'll be crushed under a matriarchy. Heck, in some regards a matriarchy might be a bit gentler than a patriarchy :-)

Edit: I seem to have touched a nerve, a lot of weak/sensitive men around here, it seems.

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5. Throwa+1d[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:51:02
>>oblio+V8
I'm not worried about a matriarchy either; what I am worried about is a permanent state of cold war between identity groups, which is where it seems we're headed.
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6. oblio+ei[view] [source] 2021-03-28 20:16:37
>>Throwa+1d
This is a gross exaggeration. Power struggles have been with us since the beginning of time.

Men and women will get along as they always have, with ups and downs. There are no "identity groups" because we aren't and can't be enemies. There are just a few loonies on both sides making a ton of noise, and they're getting amplified by the internet. They'll either get boring at some point or just be ignored completely from the outside of their circles.

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