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1. pnatha+mw1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 20:17:07
>>ruarai+(OP)
I have three perspectives here I want to share.

(1) Let's address the glass windows in our own house first and tighten the US policies and culture. Secrecy is not a good idea here. Without even reflecting on Covid, it is clear the author has been dealing with this a while, and the US needs to improve. I am reminded of discussions on the old '50s/'60s nuclear culture...

(2) A year later, it may not be possible for the most honest, the most painstaking, the most independent reconstruction of the Wuhan lab events to properly track what occurred. Nor would it be per se politically doable. It might, however, be feasible for the Chinese official position to commit to an enhanced tightening of policies and culture around lab handling of specimens, in light of current events and looking forward.

(3) To a first approximation (the same one where Pi = 3), I don't care if Covid comes from a lab, a bat, a pig, or a chicken. I care that there are dead people, and that there was massive dysfunction globally & in a multipartisan way in the response, leading to more dead and disabled people...

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2. pagean+Vy1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 20:28:06
>>pnatha+mw1
1. The virus did not originate in our own house. Seems like a deflection to say we should focus on ourselves when we're starting at evidence that Chinese missteps could have caused a global pandemic that has killed millions and upended life for billions.

2. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try. We should also acknowledge that an investigation much earlier on could have happened if it were not for Chinese government obstructionism and cover-ups.

3. Why do you not care about where it came from? The allegation at hand is that China's irresponsible scientific experimentation "created" this virus (intentional oversimplification) and allowed it to leak. If the truth never comes out, and China is never held accountable, the same thing could happen again. Why is your sole interest the global response to the pandemic as opposed to the missteps that caused the pandemic in the first place?

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3. soperj+TV1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 22:03:13
>>pagean+Vy1
Would you then say that irresponsibly treating the virus within the US & other western countries actually caused the pandemic to be bigger than it should have been?
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4. pagean+S12[view] [source] 2021-03-22 22:33:37
>>soperj+TV1
Even the Western countries that "responsibly" treated the virus are having pretty serious surges now. I guess anything short of a total and complete lockdown was irresponsible.

I'd say that the release of a highly transmissible and moderately lethal pathogen was the primary issue.

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5. soperj+H74[view] [source] 2021-03-23 15:40:36
>>pagean+S12
No surges right now in NZ or Australia. Interesting that the place that it actually originated in has no current surge either.
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6. pagean+ou4[view] [source] 2021-03-23 17:34:25
>>soperj+H74
What do the three countries that you mentioned have in common? Total authoritarian lockdowns.

Authoritarian lockdowns are effective at suppressing Covid. I won’t deny that. They’re also a complete non-starter in most countries in the world.

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7. soperj+I35[view] [source] 2021-03-23 20:19:28
>>pagean+ou4
hahahaha. New Zealand has locked down for very little time. Weeks total. They've been open for concerts and everything else in between. The lockdowns would be over if countries had actually done them properly.
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