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1. tehjok+pz1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 20:30:04
>>ruarai+(OP)
Pretty incredible how far the US media will go to deflect attention from how bad the US response to the pandemic was to China.

"Let me be clear: Labs in Wuhan might not have played any role in the origin of the pandemic. But a year later, no source has been found, and the world deserves a thorough, unbiased investigation of all plausible theories that is conducted without fear or favor."

Okay. So basically this author has no evidence other than the fact that it's very difficult, maybe impossible to identify the site of first transmission. I don't know what progress would look like, but maybe sampling animals in the wild to find a carrier with a genetic signature that looks like an early version?

This is just speculative nonsense to try to hype the government's pivot to China. That's why its in the opinion section, the worst part of the newspaper.

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2. varjag+XC1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 20:44:45
>>tehjok+pz1
No, the evidence is there's a relevant viral research lab in the epicentre with known history of safety issues and no animal transmission link have been confirmed.
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3. tehjok+ZE1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 20:52:28
>>varjag+XC1
There's evidence that many things are possible. Conspiracies are possible, but they are primarily a diagnosis of exclusion OR if there is specific evidence pointing in that direction.

The US media has made an art out of turning speculation into exciting narratives that large fractions of the population believe that turned out to be completely fabricated but retain adherents for years or generations after.

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4. varjag+MK1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 21:14:53
>>tehjok+ZE1
It's not a conspiracy, but a not improbable covered up accident. I.e. something pretty normal in any authoritarian state.

I don't think anyone suggests the CCP unleashed the virus onto its own city on purpose.

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5. tehjok+9R1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 21:42:13
>>varjag+MK1
You're alleging the CCP is covering up their role a global pandemic. That's a conspiracy as there is a group of powerful people hiding something from the public.

I believe in many conspiracy theories that have substantive evidence for them (e.g. the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was faked), so I don't dismiss the idea of a conspiracy as impossible, they happen every day. However, there is no substantive evidence presented here other than the mere possibility that someone might have done something bad.

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6. varjag+bW1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 22:04:07
>>tehjok+9R1
It's not a conspiracy in the sense of pre-meditated plan by a group of villains.

It can well be a cover-up, which is a daily life in places like China. In USSR, every technological, radiologic or biological disaster was covered up, surfacing only when it was impossible to conceal.

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7. tehjok+V24[view] [source] 2021-03-23 15:16:25
>>varjag+bW1
I urge you to google "cover-up" and "conspiracy" and see how often those words are used together.

Yes, governments tend to avoid releasing embarrassing info. Witness the way the US government failed to prepare for the virus and pretended everything would be fine and then only made changes when they couldn't possibly do anything else which probably is responsible for killing 500,000 people.

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8. varjag+fs4[view] [source] 2021-03-23 17:25:12
>>tehjok+V24
There is a reason these are two different words: they describe somewhat overlapping, but distinct concepts.

I'm not sure why you bring the American COVID response into this: its ineptitude was never even close to a secret, and the role of 45th administration in it is hardly disputed. If this is a kind of a "no u" response, well am not an American anyway.

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