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1. ttz+rc[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:17:03
>>lazycr+(OP)
First gen Chinese, grew up in NA. Have contact with relatives "on the ground".

My own experience: Don't ever trust the Chinese government on issues that could potentially involve the reputation of the party. Note that I'm not saying don't trust what CCP says, ever (sometimes they actually do good things) - just not on issues that involve anything to do with how the world might perceive them.

Which is exactly what this issue is about.

That's not to say we have compelling evidence that this was a lab virus, either. I think, for me, it's a, "we don't know, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if it was a lab virus".

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2. IIAOPS+Tt[view] [source] 2021-02-13 21:14:02
>>ttz+rc
I just assume the ccp default mode is to cover up, even when there is nothing to cover up. When legitimacy derives from competence rather than from election, you better never have any high profile incompetence.
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3. Der_Ei+sP[view] [source] 2021-02-14 00:06:41
>>IIAOPS+Tt
You're being down-voted but this is exactly what my friends who live in China have told me. People were also downvoting big time back in March when I and others were saying that the numbers China was quoting were made the heck up. Suddenly the western media realizes that's true[1] yet we don't see a mass back-lash against China as a result...

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55481397

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4. dirtyi+TS[view] [source] 2021-02-14 00:41:06
>>Der_Ei+sP
"Chinese friends/wife/coworker said" is particularly kind of ridiculous appeal to authority considering the average citizen is not typically a subject matter expert on relevant topics being discussed outside of generalized familiarity with the censorship apparatus. The only useful things the average Chinese person will tell you is Chinese numbers / stats with Chinese characteristics are not accurate, but analysts familiar with Chinese stats will at least use oblique indicators to tell you if numbers are useful, i.e. Chinese GDP smoothing.

Or in this case, how covid19 export case numbers from places like Taiwan, HK, SK, Singapore, Australia, Newzealand all indicate Chinese numbers are not grossly exaggerated - China only exported a fraction of covid19 cases compared to Europe or North America because covid19 never exploded in China due to harsh restrictions. The article you're citing is also sourcing figures from _Chinese_ CDC on antibody prevalence rate which is expected to be higher than pure testing data seen in similar studies in other countries. So again, it's official Chinese numbers being useful and comporting to similar measures elsewhere. The difference is western media like BBC attempting to spin as the numbers being uniquely nefarious and useful idiots eating it up, just like in this NYT article.

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5. __m+Xl1[view] [source] 2021-02-14 07:17:31
>>dirtyi+TS
Shhh, we need to cover the uncomfortable truth that our numbers could have been better if we took (and take) the threat serious
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6. anonym+kn1[view] [source] 2021-02-14 07:42:58
>>__m+Xl1
By that same logic - Did you ever leave your house feb 2020 to now? If you did, you could’ve done more.
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7. sverha+Fv1[view] [source] 2021-02-14 09:54:56
>>anonym+kn1
I turned into a freakin' hermit... How about you?
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8. ungame+vB1[view] [source] 2021-02-14 11:05:48
>>sverha+Fv1
Thats my secret, I was a hermit before covid (not OP).
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