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>>danso+(OP)
This is why we need civilian oversight of every police department. Cops are generally too corrupt and/or too incompetent to investigate their own. They've proven their inability to hold themselves accountable for their actions, so it's up to the rest of us to do it.

>>psycho+Mg
Is there evidence that indicates police are more corrupt than anybody else?

>>austin+xz
This is a nonsensical question. How does one measure "corruption" and how do you quantify it?

IMO these sorts of questions are kneejerk reactions without any significant fore- or after-thought. They only serve to disrupt the conversation.

>>uoaei+SB
Corruption is a provable violation of ethics which is measurable.

In so many of these police related threads on HN lately people make absurd claims and then are upset when asked about data or objectivity, which suggests people are looking to complain about something and don’t want their complaint validated with data, which is strange.

>>austin+lF
What ethics? And how can you prove anything if cops always defend their own?

In an ideal world where we have an oracle telling us which cops are good and which are bad your comment makes sense. But the nature of corruption is to obfuscate its dealings. You can't just say "well we need independent oversight" then because there are so many institutional pivot points where cops can hide their abhorrent behavior before it gets to see the light of day.

>>uoaei+RF
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics

In practical application ethics violations are knowable breaking of rules or demonstrable malicious intentions.