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1. raarts+0i[view] [source] 2020-06-22 19:47:32
>>pseudo+(OP)
There is no question that the advancement of science has been good for humanity as a whole.

Using math to improve the effectiveness of the police is a good thing. This effort - however well intended maybe - would throw out the baby with the bathwater.

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2. sudosy+ui[view] [source] 2020-06-22 19:49:13
>>raarts+0i
Using math to improve the effectiveness of police is not necessarily a good thing, because this kind of works really works to perpetuate proactive policing and over-policing, as well as encodes bias.
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3. mc32+pk[view] [source] 2020-06-22 19:55:55
>>sudosy+ui
So maybe address the biases?

People who live in areas that experience high incidence of criminal activity also want to have crime reduced. They want someone to establish order—when you have a vacuum, someone will fill it, usually someone with even less oversight, though occasionally you can luck out with a benevolent dictator of sorts.

So yes people in those areas want policing —though they may also want some reform as well. Few people want no police. They know that’s a recipe for a power vacuum and the domino effect that has.

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4. coffee+us[view] [source] 2020-06-22 20:25:32
>>mc32+pk
Well, when you're witnessing multiple instances of officers willingly and enthusiastically assaulting defenseless and innocent citizens/journalists on the street every day, you're past the point of "bias" correction.

These instances are not the result of some nebulous ingrained tendency to view others as less than themselves, they're the result of a coordinated and deliberate attempt to assert power.

Your assertion that removing police would create a "vacuum" assumes incorrectly that there is currently a sense of "order" established. This is not the case, as there is no set of behaviors black men in particular can adopt which will not result in their extrajudicial execution. Police are more accurately viewed as an occupying militia and I see no reason to believe it would just as soon be replaced by something similar.

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5. Siira+yv[view] [source] 2020-06-22 20:36:25
>>coffee+us
Please cite some statistics for such sweeping claims. That every other fool repeats a mantra doesn’t make it true.
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