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>>itcrow+(OP)
The only remarkable fact about this leak is that us plebes get to see the other side of the one-way mirror.

>>rmrfst+d2
You get to see how the sausage is made in a developed country which is, by far, an outlier in its crime-rate. I'm all for increasing police de-escalation training and policing standards in-general, I just don't think it will solve the problems that the protestors want to be solved when the crime rate is as high as it is. Ultimately, the cops are going to get jaded and stressed in ways that cops in other nations would not, and they will always prioritize their life and well-being over that of the perpetrator.

I was travelling a few years ago, and hanging out in the hotel bar in Portland, Maine, and I listened in on a heated conversation between some guy and a lady whose husband is a cop. They were discussing police brutality and the protests at the time (Baltimore maybe?), and the lady's point was basically "do whatever you want with regulating police behaviour, but I will take my husband coming home at the end of the night over anything else"

It's possible with the falling rates of crime, this may just solve itself (though increasing police training and standards is a good thing regardless).

>>macspo+G6
>You get to see how the sausage is made in a developed country which is, by far, an outlier in its crime-rate.

I don't think that's actually true. I'll have to find the stats, but IIRC the number of raw crimes is comparable between Western Europe and the US, but in the US the crime is WAY deadlier due to all of the guns. Canada is somewhere in the middle.

>>xxpor+rC
IIRC the number of raw crimes is comparable between Western Europe and the US, but in the US the crime is WAY deadlier due to all of the guns. Canada is somewhere in the middle.

It’s hotspots. Take out Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and maybe New Orleans then even gun crime in the US is no worse than Europe.

>>goatin+oD
That's not true. Berlin's murder rate is 1.8 per 100k people. If I count right that puts them at 96th between Santa Clara, CA and Boise, ID:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/30/new-yo...

>>treis+bJ
> If I count right that puts them at 96th between Santa Clara, CA and Boise, ID

First, you're only looking at cities. Lots of the US population does not live in cities.

Second, even just looking at cities, do you know how many cities there are in the US? (A lot more than 96.)

All this is telling you is that, as far as crime rates go, the US is basically two countries: certain large cities (high crime rate) and everywhere else (low crime rate).

>>pdonis+8R
>Lots of the US population does not live in cities.

Where do you think these police abuses (and subsequent protests) are coming from? Pretty much exclusively from cities.

>>macspo+aT
Yes, I know; I'm simply pointing out that "cities" is not the same as "everywhere in the US". So asking for "fixes" to this issue that involve restructuring society everywhere in the US is not reasonable. The policing issues are issues that are local to the particular cities where these problems exist; local governments are the ones that should be held accountable for fixing them.