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1. kthejo+YV[view] [source] 2020-06-15 11:26:58
>>dtagam+(OP)
If there ever was a case of "don't comment unless you've RTFA" this it: people extrapolating their viewpoint on a list of 700 things from watching 1, 2, 3 ...

At a minimum, watch 100 videos. I did last night, only took about an hour, it's easy to find some to nitpick, some which are ambiguous ... and plenty that are totally horrifying.

If you can watch 100 videos in a row from Greg Doucette's list and say, "the militarization and use of force tactics of US law enforcement are not a problem" then I'd like to hear why you think so given this evidence.

Otherwise you're not speaking from an honest grappling with what these videos contain.

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2. peterw+UX[view] [source] 2020-06-15 11:47:15
>>kthejo+YV
Can we begin with the fact that this isn't even remotely in the same universe as a peer reviewed study? There's nothing to compare it to, there's no data on what the timeline is, there's no meta analysis of the different cases, what sparked the incidents, the outcomes, or how often non-violent confrontations or de-escalations happen, etc.

Basically you're looking at a single specific dataset, like "number of children strangled", and deciding to extrapolate from that whatever you feel like, like "a systemic and perpetual abuse of mothers and babysitters power by evil matriarchs".

Honestly, I credited this crowd with more brains. Horror porn is not an intellectual argument.

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3. pjc50+MZ[view] [source] 2020-06-15 12:04:35
>>peterw+UX
> "number of children strangled"

At least in that case you wouldn't have people arguing that the kids deserved it.

> Horror porn is not an intellectual argument.

This isn't porn, this is filming reality as it happens. I know we're all a bit numbed, but this reminds me of the decisions by the Allied forces to document Auschwitz as well as possible when it was overrun, or how the BBC footage of the Ethiopian famine sparked Live Aid. The act of filming has a habit of cutting through all the pseudo-intellectual bullshit from those arguing in favour of the brutality.

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4. base69+Nx1[view] [source] 2020-06-15 15:39:02
>>pjc50+MZ
You can be massively misleading even if you're filming reality as it happens. The first of the recent Atlanta shooting videos to air left out the part where you see the suspect point a taser at the police. Ie the video appears he was shot in the back, but security cam footage shows the full story.
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5. MrMan+l12[view] [source] 2020-06-15 17:40:57
>>base69+Nx1
Autopsy says shot in the back twice.
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6. base69+892[view] [source] 2020-06-15 18:10:59
>>MrMan+l12
He pointed a taser at the police behind him in pursuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbf0x_K9i54

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7. TeaDru+Aa2[view] [source] 2020-06-15 18:17:49
>>base69+892
Tasers are nonlethal weapons, and also don't work at that range anyways, or the police would've tased him. Multiple other cops had tasers.
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8. base69+LJ2[view] [source] 2020-06-15 21:23:04
>>TeaDru+Aa2
Some questions to be answered in the 1 second he points it at you:

+ How do you know your partner is behind you?

+ How do you know he won't take your gun after he uses the taser on you?

+ How do you know it was a taser?

+ Are you confident enough in those answers to miss your daughter's next birthday?

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9. crafti+S43[view] [source] 2020-06-15 23:53:41
>>base69+LJ2
Have you seen the video? The cop drops his own taser and draws his firearm as the victim runs away. Why would he do that? Because he knows his taser is out of range, won't reach the victim.

So he knows his taser has the stopping power of a nerf gun at that point. The corollary is that he knows the taser in the hands of the victim is also out of range, also has the stopping power of a nerf gun. After this is known, because it is known, he drops his taser and draws his pistol, which does have the range.

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