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>>Xordev+(OP)
Corporations are people. If they don't act ethically, we can't expect people to act ethically.

Ending a contract with an agency that runs concentration camps is good. Better, though, is to not accept any contracts with any government that runs concentration camps.

Small steps are good. Big steps are better.

PS: great fear from all paying customers that run concentration camps that an internet mob could separate them from their code at any time -- sounds like a good policy to me. Not as good as "Don't be evil", but reasonably close.

>>dsr_+Nk
Your choice of language by saying "concentration camps" is unproductively hyperbolic and reminiscent of Nazis killing Jews in WW2. People found to have been here illegally are being kept in detention centers until deportation or trial. Nobody is getting gassed or burned in ovens.

>>TheAda+ym
He is using the correct definition of concentration camp, you are the one in error. Concentration camps have existed outside Nazi Germany. Just because that was the most horrible instance doesn't mean that other instances stopped being "concentration camps" just like how a particularly horrible murder doesn't make a less violent murder into a non-murder.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/concentration-camp

>>Drakim+np
The colloquial definition of the term is different from the technical definition, but they don't even meet the technical definition.

According to your definition, a concentration camp is an "internment centre for political prisoners and members of national or minority groups who are confined for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment.."

People of certain minority groups aren't being rounded up. Illegal immigrants are being rounded up, regardless of race or nationality.

I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong, I'm just saying that calling them concentration camps is hyperbolic and uproductive.

>>TheAda+wr
So you don't like the questions the term "concentration camp" makes you ask about the indefinite detention of foreign nationals for misdemeanor offenses?

Maybe the term isn't the problem and the policy you are trying to defend is

>>gerbal+dy
I'm fine with the questions on immigration. It's a political issue that has been unaddressed for decades, and needs to be faced soon.

I'm not fine with hyperbole. It causes unnecessary arguments and deadens people to extreme viewpoints. Reality is bad enough to cause political change as long as attention is brought to it.

>>TheAda+IA
How is "ICE is running concentration camps" hyperbole if all parts of the sentence are literally true?

If ICE could be trusted to care for those in its care [1] or respect the legal rights of immigrants [2] then, maybe it would be unfair. How many children need to die in custody before "concentration camp" stops being hyperbolic?

[1] https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2019/12/19/ice...

[2] https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-15/asylum-off...