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1. marcel+Oq[view] [source] 2020-06-15 06:04:40
>>dtagam+(OP)
There are lots and lots of mishaps in many professions, sometimes with deadly consequences. The United States is a country of 330 million people. Suppose an event is so unlikely it only has 1 in a billion chance of happening--it will happen once ever 4 days on average!

Medical errors, for example, are estimated to cause as many as 250,000 deaths per year [1].

There are millions and millions of daily interactions between police and civilians every year. Sadly, there will be some mistakes, some of which will be caught on camera.

It's important to be aware that what the media can be random, and media coverage is not always correlated with how important or prevalent a problem is.

[1] Johns Hopkins: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_su...

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2. SQueee+ir[view] [source] 2020-06-15 06:11:46
>>marcel+Oq
>It's important to be aware that what the media can be random, and media coverage is not always correlated with how important or prevalent a problem is.

Oh cool, a guy on Hacker News cited a John's Hopkins article. Pack it up protestors, racism isn't real and cops aren't tear gasing reporters in the face!

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3. marcel+0s[view] [source] 2020-06-15 06:20:44
>>SQueee+ir
Huh? I didn't say racism isn't real, and I also didn't say cops aren't tear gassing reporters in the face.

GP questioned how a profession can exist when it makes so many deadly mistakes. I pointed out that there is another profession, medicine, which also makes lots of deadly mistakes. Some are accidental oversights, but you can also do some searches and find some really bad medical errors. [1] but you can find lots more.

Again, what the media draws attention to, and what is going on in society on a daily basis, are not the same thing. Racism and police misconduct existed before 2020, but it just in the last few weeks really popped onto the media's attention.

And again, because of the sheer size of the United States, you have to look at statistics in addition to anecdotes when you think about policy.

[1] https://www.mdlinx.com/article/jaw-dropping-medical-mix-ups/...

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4. deathg+su[view] [source] 2020-06-15 06:48:49
>>marcel+0s
Statistics are useless because almost all police misconduct goes unreported. Police departments are designed to make oversight impossible.
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5. ardy42+ax[view] [source] 2020-06-15 07:13:04
>>deathg+su
> Statistics are useless because almost all police misconduct goes unreported.

This is true, and these videos help show that. There are more and more cases being uncovered where the police blatantly lied about their own misconduct in official reports. For instance, the police claimed the the Buffalo protester fell when video shows the police pushed him over, and the police report for the killing of George Floyd made no mention of holding him down by the neck. If there hadn't been video, I doubt either of those two incidents would have been counted in police misconduct statistics.

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