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>>obilgi+(OP)
They need a political win on something in the next few days. Otherwise this thing fizzles out, is crushed, or turns into a joke like the 2016 bird sanctuary occupation. Some of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" apply.

⬤ "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."

⬤ "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."

That's the problem with "defund the police". "We'd all love to see the plan", as John Lennon once put it.

Camden NJ did do this. They fired their entire police department and started over. Sometimes you have to do that. Sometimes you just need to fire the bottom 1-10%. Maybe give randomly-chosen civil grand juries the power to fire cops. Not just for criminal offenses, just for being subpar at being a cop.

>>Animat+bW1
There have been lots of mid-sized political wins for these protests. Breanna's law, Minneapolis defunding it's police, etc. It's sustained distributed action, and some of it is not real (the NYC chokehold ban), but there's still real stuff happening.

>>joshua+VZ1
I wouldn't say a chokehold ban is not real. The jury is still out, but it seems restricting use of force can help: https://www.vox.com/2020/6/5/21280402/8-cant-wait-explained-...

>>mauflo+592
My understanding is that chokeholds were already banned by department policy. So officers should have, but didn't, fave consequences for them.

Theres relatively little reason to think that the law will change that. Other stuff might, but in isolation, officers could continue to ignore the law.