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1. conroy+fz1[view] [source] 2020-06-11 23:32:43
>>obilgi+(OP)
A friend lives in Seattle and texted me today about his visit last night:

> I was there last night and it's such a cool pseudo utopian place

> The media coverage of it is WILD

> People on the internet are convinced it's protected by armed guards and people are dying of hunger and instead its...like a music festival campground

> There are speakers, musicians, art walls. I took a group pic for a bunch of black guys last night and they were so proud of what was built because they felt like they fought for it, which in a sense, they did.

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2. solida+HB1[view] [source] 2020-06-11 23:56:07
>>conroy+fz1
> a music festival campground

Which is fun for a while until people start dying or fighting like they always do and suddenly you need a group of people who spend their time dealing with it. Anarchic utopias do not stay utopic for all that long.

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3. woodru+GH1[view] [source] 2020-06-12 00:53:48
>>solida+HB1
> Anarchic utopias do not stay utopic for all that long.

At least one counterexample to this is Exarcheia[1] in Athens, which has been relatively unpoliced for the last 50 years.

I was there about a year ago and was struck by how both peaceful and lively it was. Nowhere in Athens felt nearly as alive.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exarcheia

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4. buboar+rv2[view] [source] 2020-06-12 10:49:59
>>woodru+GH1
It's not a utopic commune though, it's a normal neighborhood, apart from frequent violent and spectacular fights with police.
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5. freeon+sy3[view] [source] 2020-06-12 18:11:15
>>buboar+rv2
Yes, that's the end goal of a utopic commune - normal life.
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