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>>obilgi+(OP)
So my question: will Trump quickly and lethally invoke the Insurrection act? Will the Joint Chiefs comply or create a constitutional crisis?

If this isn’t shut down quickly, I predict we see a national movement like this by Juneteenth.

>>kf+e2
His threat to use the Insurrection Act last week was one of the most unpopular acts of his entire presidency, and directly led to the major rebukes from people like Mattis. So I doubt it.

>>Trasma+t5
While that’s a fair point, this situation is a more literal insurrection than the previously seen protests and taking of goods from stores. CHAZ has declared their independence from the USA and historically that kind of thing is really not allowed. Has Trump so thoroughly lost control that secession is legal now?

>>kf+k6
I think the Seattle Police are thinking, "these are a bunch of kids who want to play-act La Revolución. If we just ignore them for a week, they'll get bored or disillusioned and go home."

So the police aren't going to storm the barricades -- they figure they won't have to.

>>Taikon+ce
This basically happens in Berlin every year on the May Day celebrations/marches.

The police let the anarchists do whatever they want, within certain constraints (no injuring people, constrained to certain neighborhoods), and the anarchists only do it on that day of the year. Sometimes there are conflicts between the police and the rioters, but it never escalates to huge conflicts any more.

It’s a display of mutual respect for authority, and it allows the radical groups to blow off some steam, while campaigning for progress.

I know this idea makes no sense to law and order -type people, but it’s an ancient human idea to ritualize and sanctify the behaviors you want to discourage or control.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day_in_Kreuzberg

>>gen220+PB1
This is a fitting explanation, and I think developing these kinds of rituals further will help heal some of the divides in this country.

Your last paragraph reminded me of Eric Gans’ “Originary Hypothesis” [1]:

> Gans hypothesizes that language originates in "an aborted gesture of appropriation," which signifies the desired object as sacred and which memorializes the birth of language, serving as the basis for rituals which recreate the originary event symbolically. The originary sign serves to defer the mimetic violence threatening the group, hence Gans's capsule definition of culture as "the deferral of violence through representation."

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Gans#The_Originary_Hypo...