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>>dredmo+(OP)
What can we do, as a community, to limit the spread of fascism? It seems that it's quite a problem.

>>Kednic+q5
"Boogaloo" isn't exclusively fascist; it's kind of a weird convergence of the militant ultra-right and ultra-left. The ultra-right wants to unironically kill everyone who isn't a white evangelical christian and create a white ethno-state, while the ultra-left wants to unironically kill the rich and end capitalism.

The only thing they agree on is they want to exploit heightened tensions to start a civil war with the belief they would eliminate the other side.

>>wayout+r7
the ultra left does not want to kill the rich and end capitalism, see neo-liberal policies. It's outdated to say the left are for the people anymore, unless they live in coastal elite cities with extremely well paid jobs making their situation so out of touch with the rest of the country/world they now play fascist. The most obvious sign of evil is when it eats something and takes it's face

>>Aviceb+W7
the ultra left does not want to kill the rich

Just from the top of my hat, the latest example of a hundred-plus years worth of statements/actions that disprove that statement: https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Linken-Mitglied...

Shown there, a statement caught on tape at a strategy-summit of the German far-left party Die Linke (I freely translate): "...regarding Energiewende [German Green New Deal]… after the revolution, when the 1% has been shot, we still want to heat our homes…"

To which the party chairman, Bernd Riexinger, present on the same stage replied: "We're not gonna shoot them, we're going to put them to good use"

>>idownv+Z9
You're cherry picking idownvote. Look at the current manufacturing and economic/workplace protection/maneuverability between class situation (not the stock market, the people) the US has been faced with. Do you really think this is working for everyone?

>>Aviceb+za
I'm sorry but I think warming up old chestnuts about Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, Che, Ho Chi-Minh or Stalin would be pointless by now, decades after since their "progress" has been laid bare.

Maybe I'm biased, but I come from an underpriviliged background (in a first world country), yet made great strides and climbed the social ladder. Throughout my experience, people the most concerned with trying to frame my poor childhood as a "class situation" were almost always middle-to-upper-class people.

At some point it even felt like rich kids use this framing to keep poorer ones form passing them on the social ladder. But I'm convinced by now that the urge to frame groups into instituitional victims, is something more personal: Having the luxury of never having to grow up because of their parent's financial background, they rather choose to pick a fight they can't loose because it's not theirs.

>>idownv+9d
I'm not advocating going Stalin or Mao is the solution, I'm saying that the current status quo needs re-adjustment.

I'm also from an underprivileged background (in a first world country as well), I witnessed first hand how the odds stacked against me have translated into my lived experiences.

Maybe unlike you, I have fought and lost against people with better parental financial situation I have a perspective that this is an issue, not something that can just be gritted through. Not all success is through hard work.

>>Aviceb+Se
Fair enough. I didn't expect that the "ultra" in ultra-left meant softer-than-mao. After all ultra is a pretty super superlative, right?

If I were to be just cynical, I could argue that your loss may be due to processing your uphill battle via this whole marxist framing and not via a more independent "OK, how can I improve my situation?" (e.g. switch companies/sector/trade/town/country).

But I agree, Not all success is through hard work. . Absolutely. My success is a proof of this, because I'm a mediocre programmer at best. Which invigorates my disbelief in programmers advocating the ultra-left Marx: In the programmers job-market how can one feel disadvantaged at all? The financial crisis 2008 left us untouched, while the majority of society were furloughed or fired. Same story this year.

My advice: This odds-stacked-against-you-framing is your biggest waste of time. Financially and spiritually.