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1. davros+Y8[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:39:05
>>oftenw+(OP)
From afar, it seems to me like the big problem in US policing is a lack of calm professionalism. The de-escalation approach in the article would to me but just one aspect of taking a professional approach where safety and following rules and best practices is paramount (and prioritised over 'winning' against criminals).
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2. rectan+Ra[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:54:32
>>davros+Y8
I have always suspected that US police are shunted into sub-optimal patterns because there are so many guns here that the odds a simple interaction will involve a firearm are much higher than they are in less-well-armed societies. Does anybody know if I'm right about that?

That doesn't mean that they can't do more de-escalation or take other steps, but the high prevalence of guns does seem like it would be a contributing factor.

(I realize this touches a hot topic (guns) but it's an honest question, and sympathetic to law enforcement.)

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3. pjc50+Jh[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:53:06
>>rectan+Ra
White protestors were allowed to occupy a state building with guns without a single bit of teargas.
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4. frabbi+sl[view] [source] 2020-06-02 03:23:55
>>pjc50+Jh
Not to mention the Malheur Refuge standoff where heavily armed protestors were handled with kid gloves.

Maybe it's to do with having guns?

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5. creato+8M[view] [source] 2020-06-02 07:53:59
>>frabbi+sl
A few of those protestors were chased through a road block and shot at, and one was killed. It is ironic that you are calling the police killing someone handling with "kid gloves" in a thread about deescalation between protestors and police.

(Don't get me wrong, what those protestors did was senseless and the epitome of entitlement.)

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6. Tulliu+Fc1[view] [source] 2020-06-02 12:44:08
>>creato+8M
> A few of those protestors were chased through a road block and shot at, and one was killed.

This is a highly misleading way of describing the situation.

The police set up a traffic stop to arrest them. They fled the stop. Finicum told the police he wasn't going to surrender and that they'd have to shoot him. He reached for his gun in his pocket, and then he was shot.

If black men were only being killed by police after fleeing arrest, refusing to surrender, challenging the police to shoot them, and then reaching for a gun...then we wouldn't have much of a police violence problem.

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