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1. davros+Y8[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:39:05
>>oftenw+(OP)
From afar, it seems to me like the big problem in US policing is a lack of calm professionalism. The de-escalation approach in the article would to me but just one aspect of taking a professional approach where safety and following rules and best practices is paramount (and prioritised over 'winning' against criminals).
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2. rectan+Ra[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:54:32
>>davros+Y8
I have always suspected that US police are shunted into sub-optimal patterns because there are so many guns here that the odds a simple interaction will involve a firearm are much higher than they are in less-well-armed societies. Does anybody know if I'm right about that?

That doesn't mean that they can't do more de-escalation or take other steps, but the high prevalence of guns does seem like it would be a contributing factor.

(I realize this touches a hot topic (guns) but it's an honest question, and sympathetic to law enforcement.)

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3. pjc50+Jh[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:53:06
>>rectan+Ra
White protestors were allowed to occupy a state building with guns without a single bit of teargas.
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4. exolym+mr[view] [source] 2020-06-02 04:25:42
>>pjc50+Jh
Well yeah, if all of the protestors are armed, the police realize they can't escalate the situation and get away with it.
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5. andrew+dB[view] [source] 2020-06-02 06:08:26
>>exolym+mr
So the question here is: Would the response have been the same if all the heavily armored folk were black?

As a born and raised American, I'm inclined to think not. I could be wrong of course, but everything that I've seen and experienced growing up and living in the US has led me to believe otherwise.

I want to think that more protestors being armed would make a difference, but ultimately I believe it will just lead to escalation and more deaths by cop (and/or the national guard, as we're finding out in Louisville currently).

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6. maynia+8W[view] [source] 2020-06-02 09:47:29
>>andrew+dB
"Would the response have been the same if all the heavily armored folk were black?"

There's precedent for this. In the 60s the black panthers open carried in California to protest, of course, police misconduct. Reagan signed in the Mulford Act [1], banning open carry in CA.

If BLM want stricter gun control laws (not sure if they do), all they need to do is arm themselves at protests.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

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