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1. just_s+k8[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:32:41
>>oftenw+(OP)
Folks - don't be obtuse. Police commanders know exactly what will happen when they escalate with tear gas and rubber bullets.

Pro-police forces WANT mayhem. It makes people watching on TV afraid of the protests, and it changes the subject away from the widespread peaceful opposition to racist police violence.

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2. nostro+C9[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:44:04
>>just_s+k8
Minneapolis Chief of Police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medaria_Arradondo

Seattle Chief of Police: http://www.seattle.gov/police/about-us/about-the-department/...

St Louis Chief of Police: http://www.slmpd.org/chief_of_police.shtml

Atlanta Chief of Police: https://www.projectq.us/atlanta/atlanta_police_chief_erika_s...

Chicago Chief of Police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brown_(police_officer)

Oakland Chief of Police: https://climaterwc.com/2019/07/17/san-mateo-police-chief-sus...

People on HN seem to have a cartoon villain view of police, so I thought I'd share a few faces of police leadership in effected communities.

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3. ciaran+na[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:51:01
>>nostro+C9
>People on HN seem to have a cartoon villain view of police

What could possibly give people that impression?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu3s6j/poli...

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4. nostro+6d[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:11:16
>>ciaran+na
"Police commanders ... WANT mayhem"

That's what I responded to. I'm curious if you truly think the people that I listed want to see their home towns on fire.

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5. aaronb+Qd[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:17:38
>>nostro+6d
Most Police Don’t Live In The Cities They Serve: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-police-dont-live-i...

Chicago: 88% of police live in city

St Louis: 59%

Atlanta: 14%

Minneapolis: 10% (white officers: 5%)

Seattle: 12%

Oakland: 9%

Also, certainly in Minneapolis—and likely elsewhere—the police chief doesn't seem to have nearly as much control over rank and file officers as the union head does. This story gives more texture: https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapoli...

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6. calvin+Hh[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:52:43
>>aaronb+Qd
Philadelphia takes a split approach. See below:

The city has mandated residency requirements for nearly all city employees since the 1950s, but police and some other public workers are exempt, The Philadelphia Tribune reports. Approximately 30 percent of Philadelphia police officers live outside of Philadelphia, according to Acting Commissioner Christine Coulter.

In 2010, the police union won the right for officers who have five or more years of experience to live outside the city limits. Those terms have been in effect since 2012. Firefighters and sheriff’s deputies with five or more years of service were allowed to live outside of the city in 2016.

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