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1. RcouF1+pg[view] [source] 2020-06-01 16:36:22
>>mwseib+(OP)
> So let’s not excuse violence, or rationalize it, or participate in it.

Taboos around violence for political are one of the crucial building blocks for a functioning democracy. If those taboos are broken, even for a good cause, you set a precedence that violence works. And the next cause won’t be as good. One only has to look at the lessons of the Roman Revolution that started with the murder of Grachus, and ended with an Emperor who everyone acclaimed as they were so tired of the bloodshed.

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2. mmastr+Aj[view] [source] 2020-06-01 16:51:39
>>RcouF1+pg
I cannot condone violence nor encourage it, but you have to admit that the first few protests and property damage drastically influenced the quick arrest of an officer that may not have been arrested or even fired if it didn't happen.

The non-violent protests of Colin Kaepernick were mocked and used to rally the other side and just weren't effective.

The problem here is not the violence, but a policing system that is so fundamentally damaged and has not been effectively reformed fast enough.

The MLK quote is trotted out pretty often, but "a riot is the language of the unheard".

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3. devalg+4r[view] [source] 2020-06-01 17:23:53
>>mmastr+Aj
>The MLK quote is trotted out pretty often, but "a riot is the language of the unheard".

Trotted out by ignorant woke dummies. In his 1967 Stanford speech MLK also says: "Let me say as I've always said and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. I'm still convinced that nonviolence is the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and justice."

Using MLK to defend or advocate violence is astonishingly ahistoric.

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4. applef+ZW[view] [source] 2020-06-01 20:02:21
>>devalg+4r
the post you're replying too doesn't imply he advocated riots; if the quote is accurate (I'm no historian) it's simply attributing causality.
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5. devalg+001[view] [source] 2020-06-01 20:16:18
>>applef+ZW
I'm explicitly talking about the people who are using the MLK quote to DEFEND the riots not explain them. If they actually supported the thesis of what MLK was saying they would post the entire quote with the relevant condemnation of riots, some are doing that but many aren't.
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6. jessau+rw1[view] [source] 2020-06-01 23:21:32
>>devalg+001
No one is doing that.
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