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1. cirno+0y[view] [source] 2020-04-14 19:10:44
>>claude+(OP)
> “We support every employee’s right to criticize their employer’s working conditions,” a spokesperson said, “but that does not come with blanket immunity against any and all internal policies.”

What a strange statement. "We support their right to criticize their working conditions, only actually we don't at all"

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2. NotSam+rQ[view] [source] 2020-04-14 20:52:58
>>cirno+0y
Why is amazon so clueless. These firings seems like bad policy, seem to be very likely illegal (they have so much money it won't matter though to pay fines). And it's terrible PR. And for people that pay attention (including hacker news people) it makes them look terrible.

Four bad outcomes. All they do is "remove a troublemaker" from their standpoint. Why not just address the issues? They look like they want to bring back the days of company towns and central control. This doesn't make me want to work there, it's a strong dis-incentive for that.

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3. rglull+ZQ[view] [source] 2020-04-14 20:56:59
>>NotSam+rQ
Forget about working there. Does it stop you from buying their products?
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4. maland+321[view] [source] 2020-04-14 21:59:53
>>rglull+ZQ
This.

It doesn't really matter what Amazon does (see this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22871216), the woke crowd has already made up their mind about the company and will criticize them regardless. The only thing that is going to satisfy the woke crowd is Amazon's failure.

Their best strategy is to focus on being the most customer centric company so that people like myself and millions upon millions of others keep buying from them.

I worked at another company the woke crowd loved to hate on and no matter how much more actual woke stuff our company did, the woke crowd still promoted the less woke company with the more woke brand because we were Goliath and they were David. We should have stopped wasting our effort to appease the unappeasable and just focused on being customer-centric like Amazon does. The loudest critics aren't trying to build a better world. They are trying to signal to others about how woke they want others to think they are.

This doesn't mean that Amazon and my previous employer shouldn't do good things. They should and do. What it means is that they should do it because those things are the right thing and they should pay no mind to the haters because haters are gonna hate. You can't be Goliath and not get hated on.

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5. mercer+hf2[view] [source] 2020-04-15 11:55:40
>>maland+321
For some reason I feel that I should be honest about downvoting your comment just because of the insane number of sentences mentioning 'woke' <x> and <y>. I just tend to zone out when commenters bore the shit out of me mentioning some kind of 'woke' adversary. It should be beneath all of us.
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6. rglull+AD2[view] [source] 2020-04-15 14:36:05
>>mercer+hf2
> It should be beneath all of us.

He said, while commenting down-thread with very rational-debate-provoking labels of "Trumpian America" and "Right-wing Brazilians who don't care about the society and the situation in their country".

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7. mercer+wP3[view] [source] 2020-04-15 20:42:34
>>rglull+AD2
Yeah, fair enough. Sometimes I just get angry and I know it doesn't help.
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