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1. mythz+S4[view] [source] 2020-04-14 16:28:29
>>ig0r0+(OP)
Great news for everyone bar startups competing with them as it looks like Microsoft is turning their multi-billion acquisition of GitHub into a loss leader to get as many devs using their platform as possible, no doubt to flex seamless integrations into Azure which looks like they're executing exceptionally well with their acquisitions & new feature giveaways.

From the side-lines it looks like they're slowly becoming an unstoppable dominant force, what's surprising to me is AWS's / GCP's inaction, they're either asleep at the wheel or they don't see Microsoft's dev mindshare grab as a threat.

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2. trough+je[view] [source] 2020-04-14 17:10:10
>>mythz+S4
Blazor is slow to start but I think long-term will be a game changer.
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3. Someon+6g[view] [source] 2020-04-14 17:18:03
>>trough+je
You mean Microsoft's latest attempt at Web Forms/Silverlight, a product that yet again tries to muddy the separation between client and server execution contexts using magic.

Seems like every generation re-invents this idea, and every time it fails for the same fatal flaw: Illusions are just that, and you'll wind up hacking around the illusion if you want to do something not envisioned (or run into a bug in the secret sauce).

And before someone replies "it is nothing like Web Forms!!!" here's a direct quote from Blazor's homepage:

> Blazor can run your client logic on the server. Client UI events are sent back to the server using SignalR - a real-time messaging framework. Once execution completes, the required UI changes are sent to the client and merged into the DOM.

That's literally how Web Forms worked.

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4. Gordon+jq[view] [source] 2020-04-14 18:01:42
>>Someon+6g
This is a really cynical take.

I'm also not sure why you are conflating Silverlight with Web Forms - it was never competing with Web Forms, it was client-side only, a replacement to Flash - a better UI and API (at the time) than HTML/CSS/JS.

Blazor is OSS, and doesn't work like Web Forms.

As in your own quote, Blazor uses SignalR - which uses push-based comms, such as Web Sockets; Web Forms was standard HTTP.

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5. pknopf+fK1[view] [source] 2020-04-15 03:54:44
>>Gordon+jq
Blazor may not work like Web Forms, but the philosophy is similar. Abstract away the fundamentals of HTML/JS, making back-end devs feel like front-end devs.

I started my dev career a long time ago in Web Forms. I went so long without understanding HTTP POST/GET/etc that it harmed me.

Anyone remember UpdatePanel? AjaxControlToolkit? Blazor gives me the same feelings.

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