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1. cirno+0y[view] [source] 2020-04-14 19:10:44
>>claude+(OP)
> “We support every employee’s right to criticize their employer’s working conditions,” a spokesperson said, “but that does not come with blanket immunity against any and all internal policies.”

What a strange statement. "We support their right to criticize their working conditions, only actually we don't at all"

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2. jasode+3B[view] [source] 2020-04-14 19:26:33
>>cirno+0y
>What a strange statement. "We support their right to criticize their working conditions, only actually we don't at all"

Without seeing the actual policy, my guess is that "criticizing" is something employees can do internally within the company. However, you can't post public tweets about it.

In other words, "don't air dirty laundry".

This type of distinction is very common in typical employee policies. Likewise, it's common for a CEO for VP to say to the employees "I have an open door policy so if you see something wrong, tell me." -- but common sense should tell you that the CEO does not mean for the employee to post an "open letter to the CEO" on Twitter or NYTimes for the public read as well.

I know of no well-known company that encourages employees to publicly criticize their workplace.

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3. alexan+nB[view] [source] 2020-04-14 19:28:17
>>jasode+3B
Uh great... yeah just walk right into the CEO's office and tell them what's wrong... 0% chance of that coming back to affect your career....
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4. lnsru+QE[view] [source] 2020-04-14 19:47:10
>>alexan+nB
Did exactly this! Just it wasn’t CEO, only a Vice President. I mentioned bugs and lack of testing in a polite way, also offered how test system could be designed to automate testing. There was a committee created to do inspection of my code and to analyze, why I do so many bugs. I’ll never tell anybody, how to operate better after this “incident”. The months were hell and I am pretty sure, I’ll be fired during next downsizing round.
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5. S_A_P+zH[view] [source] 2020-04-14 20:02:30
>>lnsru+QE
First, good on you for trying to make a difference. Second, without painting with too broad of a brush here I would say that depending on the size of your organization this is the exact wrong layer to complain to. The VPs can be in the spot where they want to be perceived as running the show so the C levels can take care of the vision. If there was a CTO at your company that may have been the better move.

Either way, Im sorry to hear that things went south after complaining and it sounds like it just got bruised egos involved.

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