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1. minima+L[view] [source] 2015-09-06 21:14:12
>>dang+(OP)
> paywalls that leave ways for readers to work around them

I would call pasting-the-URL-into-Google-Search less of a intentional workaround and more of a trick to take advantage of the websites' compliance with Google rules.

Not every HN reader would know to do that, or look in the comments for that "workaround."

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2. dang+T[view] [source] 2015-09-06 21:16:16
>>minima+L
> Not every HN reader would know to do that.

That's right, so it's ok for people to ask and share how to read an article in the comments. There shouldn't need to be more than one or two comments about this, and it helps everyone focus on the content.

What's off-topic is the generic tangent of paywall complaining.

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3. stretc+a1[view] [source] 2015-09-06 21:22:26
>>dang+T
So all I need to do is read every comment, then I can try to find out how to read the article?
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4. michae+R1[view] [source] 2015-09-06 21:30:54
>>stretc+a1
That's one option. You can also google the title or URL of the article (this is the most common workaround); or you can search the comments for the word 'paywall'; or you can purchase a membership or subscription for the paywalled site; or you can skip reading the article.
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5. huevin+q3[view] [source] 2015-09-06 21:55:05
>>michae+R1
Or we can stop showing paywalled links to people and not support this crap as a community.
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6. guipsp+J6[view] [source] 2015-09-06 22:54:43
>>huevin+q3
It's either this or ads, and ads don't work anymore because people use adblock.
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7. huevin+K9[view] [source] 2015-09-07 00:14:16
>>guipsp+J6
Most people don't use adblock and the ones that do weren't clicking on ads to start with.
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8. Buge+ea[view] [source] 2015-09-07 00:29:48
>>huevin+K9
This site has a graph that say 55% of visitors to gaming sites use adblock http://contently.com/strategist/2015/07/10/why-adblockers-sh... . I would assume hacker news visitors would have a similar number. That would be an interesting thing to measure. Someone who gets to the front page of HN should measure what percent of people with a HN referer block ads.

And many ads are paid per view, not per click.

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