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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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14. ameliu+J9[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 16:29:57
>>crazyg+X7
Maybe we should just install this keypad on our printers and be done with it:

https://www.vectorstock.com/royalty-free-vector/ctrl-alt-del...

19. Anothe+4a[view] [source] 2026-02-03 16:31:58
>>ptorro+(OP)
This will cause 3D printer usability to go down massively. A bit like the multicolored tracking dots - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots that causes the driver to tell you "you can't print black and white as you're out of yellow".
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20. mothba+6a[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 16:31:59
>>jp1919+k7
Dexter Taylor is serving 10 years for doing so in NYC without a license[]. The guns were never used or even left his home, and he is not otherwise involved in crime.

Also in NY it's illegal to make an unserialized firearm. I have no idea what the serialization requirements are there, but what California did was require you report them to DROS.

Also, federally, not legal advice -- but I'm not aware there's any law against selling it. You just can't manufacture it for the purpose of sale or transfer. If it is incidentally sold later it's just like any other firearm without a serial number that's also legal (namely those manufactured commercially before the GCA, or those manufactured non-commercially by private persons after the GCA). I've seen the claim "can't transfer or sell it" over and over on all kind of gun forums etc but no one has ever been able to point where that is blanket illegal.

[] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Taylor

35. scratc+db[view] [source] 2026-02-03 16:36:00
>>ptorro+(OP)
Second half of this article has signs of AI slop, as confirmed by Pangram:

https://i.imgur.com/gGIAApA.png

Hard to trust an article like this when the legal analysis and suggestions are being outsourced to an LLM.

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36. 1-more+ib[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 16:36:11
>>bitwiz+C8
They also declared that a shoelace is a machine gun until they declared that it's not

https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/ctdm3/oldie_but_goody...

https://imgur.com/7N6zc

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46. tastyf+bc[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 16:39:20
>>Mister+W6
3D printed guns haven't been zip guns in a long time. That reads as willful ignorance. Only the receiver or frame are controlled. Every other part can be purchased online without any checks. Hoffman Tactical's Orca and a myriad of pistol frame can be used to produce weapons on par with commercial weapons. Many commercial pistols are polymer frames. A good 3d printed pistol frame is no different than a cast nylon polymer frame.

If you want to see what is possible with 3d printed guns now I recommend Hoffman Tactical and PSR on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/@HoffmanTactical

https://www.youtube.com/@PrintShootRepeat

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47. jerf+dc[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 16:39:23
>>Silver+v9
It is not weird in the slightest. These things are coordinated at the state level all the time.

This is probably one of those good tests of "is your 'conspiracy theory' meter properly calibrated", because if it's going off right now and you are in disbelief, you've got it calibrated incorrectly. This is so completely routine that there's an entire branch of law codified in this way called the "Uniform Commercial Code": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Commercial_Code and see the organization running this' home page at https://www.uniformlaws.org/acts/ucc .

And that's just a particular set of laws with an organization dedicated to harmonizing all the various states laws for their particular use cases. It's not the one and only gateway to such laws, it's just an example of a cross-state law coordination so established that it has an entire organization dedicated to it. Plenty of other stuff is coordinated at the state level across multiple states all the time.

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63. mothba+pd[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 16:43:55
>>pjc50+Ya
The 3d-printed hybrid FGC-9 is readily and commonly made all over Europe[0]. Most notoriously exhibit by 'jstark' in Germany[1]. Ammo is no problem, as can be made with off the shelf components available in EU[2]. And fairly reliable, if not oversized, 9mm pistol, primarily printed except with an ECM machined barrel that is easily DIY'd by 3d printing a mandrel for the rifling electrode and a simple bolt. A really nice gun all things considered for people with no other options, that can be built quickly using simple instructions.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FGC-9

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygxGrxCEOp0

[2] https://odysee.com/@TheGatalog-Guides_Tutorials:b/BWA-Ammo-V...

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65. kstrau+td[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 16:44:17
>>jp1919+k7
I’d be careful with that. Much as I think we should regulate firearms, I despise how the Constitution’s interstate commerce clause has been horribly abused to cover intrastate ownership. See, by making your own gun, you didn’t import one from another state, so therefore the Feds should be involved because it involves interstate commerce now.

For example[0]:

> Filburn was penalized under the Act. He argued that the extra wheat that he had produced in violation of the law had been used for his own use and thus had no effect on interstate commerce, since it never had been on the market. In his view, this meant that he had not violated the law because the additional wheat was not subject to regulation under the Commerce Clause.

> The Court reasoned that Congress could regulate activity within a single state under the Commerce Clause, even if each individual activity had a trivial effect on interstate commerce, as long as the intrastate activity viewed in the aggregate would have a substantial effect on interstate commerce.

So don’t assume that just because it never crosses state lines that it escapes federal law, however utterly freaking ridiculous that may be.

0: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1940-1955/317us111

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109. kube-s+3i[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 17:02:23
>>Banazi+jf
NY legislators have been pushing for this in public statements over the past year.

e.g. https://d12t4t5x3vyizu.cloudfront.net/ritchietorres.house.go...

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112. mothba+Ai[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 17:04:23
>>hoarse+Qe
The only weapon class I know of that's outright illegal to own is anti-aircraft missiles. That carries life imprisonment just for possession, with no violent intent. Because the government never wants to give up its air supremacy. This is why whenever you hear of feds concocting an international weapons conspiracy they always have to add anti-air bazookas to the charges because it's the only thing that actually can unequivocally be proven as illegal to own[0].

Basically everything else can be owned with an NFA tax stamp. Nuclear weapons my understanding is the difficulty is more with laws on handling the material than specifically owning one as a weapon, so I'm unsure those are even outright illegal either.

Explosives are actually one of the ones with looser restrictions. Even felons can own and re-instate their explosives rights, because bafflingly when congress de-funded the firearms rights restoration process for felons they forgot to do the one for explosives. Felons can also own and manufacture explosive black powder without scrutiny or paperwork, even ones intended to go in a black powder gun.

[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68365597

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116. 9x39+kj[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 17:08:10
>>dylan6+7b
Their proposal is about getting lines like this ratified:

"No person, firm or corporation shall sell or deliver any three-dimensional printer in the state of New York unless such printer is equipped with blocking technology," https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S9005

They don't like firearms in the hands of the public.

The goal is to be an indirect ban that's hard to challenge. California has had significant success with strategies such as requiring "microstamping technology" (but it could be anything - it's just a limiting mechanism) in conjunction with an approved handgun roster to limit handgun sales in the state. This is almost certain to be a similar strategy.

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129. hoarse+jm[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 17:23:04
>>9x39+Eh
https://ammo.com/research/list-of-banned-guns-and-ammo-by-st...

Sawed off shotguns seems arbitrary and that was ultimately my (pre-coffee) point; government is fine with coming up with an arbitrary restriction when they want.

They could outlaw the means of production. Gen pop is not allowed to own that.

132. qwlefk+Am[view] [source] 2026-02-03 17:24:06
>>ptorro+(OP)
And not for the first time:

2025: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/A2228

2023 (before Mangione): https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/A8132

Maybe there are others.

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148. maxlyb+vs[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 17:45:14
>>krunck+6f
I have a copy of https://archive.org/details/gerard-metral-gun/ on my bookshelf (by a European, too!).
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156. viccis+gw[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 17:59:27
>>crazyg+X7
It has been used as an idiom to mean stopping or restarting something (the former in this case) for decades: https://wordspy.com/words/ctrl-alt-delete/

I think it's because most people associate Ctrl-Alt-Del with the process of terminating a process, so they use the key sequence itself to refer to the act of terminating something.

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159. kube-s+Ow[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 18:01:27
>>Retric+hu
> Firearms was used rather than weapons

Where? The constitution says neither. It says "Arms"

Regardless, the constitution specifically makes reference to the private ownership of cannons and warships.

> To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque

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164. crazyg+gO[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 19:06:52
>>viccis+Dv
But doesn't Ctrl+Alt+Del bring up the screen to switch users or sign out? "Task Manager" is one item in the list of options you get, but it's not the main one or anything, in fact it's the last:

https://www.lifewire.com/thmb/hzx6btMYEqZJfSAL3WVxXuW3-jw=/1...

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167. 9x39+ZV[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 19:39:51
>>Retric+dk
Principally concerned between the state and the people, not only. The context was the nature of England at the time. It was viewed as an oppressive force.

The right to a jury trial is another example of favoring the individual instead of say, the Star Chamber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

I don’t think we even disagree per se, but it’s hard to argue the constitution wasn’t written primarily with the thought of what England and how it exercised authority in mind. Individual roadmen and ruffians, let’s say, existed but weren’t existential threats to shape the tone of the new nation’s foundation, were they?

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176. tastyf+vu1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 22:30:16
>>dylan6+kj1
Seven states have required gun registries. It is not illegal for a state to have a registry. It is illegal for the federal government to have a gun registry with exceptions for NFA controlled arms.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12057

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178. socalg+jE1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 23:25:29
>>pjc50+Ya
And so, Nick Bostrom's total surveillance required, starts

https://nickbostrom.com/papers/vulnerable.pdf

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188. tekno4+dI1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 23:44:33
>>genter+AG1
https://www.makera.com/products/carvera-air?srsltid=AfmBOopy...

Desktop CNC machines are here bruh.

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195. nick__+eL1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 00:01:46
>>mothba+Ai
Here the law https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2332g it says "shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment not less than 25 years or to imprisonment for life." Even conspiring to acquire them is as illegal as possession!
196. slg+CN1[view] [source] 2026-02-04 00:16:47
>>ptorro+(OP)
I think it's interesting to note that not only is there precedent for this type of "blocking technology that prevents the printing of certain things"[1], but it's also inconsequential and uncontroversial enough that most of the people here obviously have never even heard of it.

We lost the ability to print $50 bills with our HPs[2] and it had no noticeable negative impact on society. I'm not sure why losing the ability to print a gun with our Prusas will be any different.

[1] - https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopeners/cant-photocopy-scan-cu...

[2] - https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Printers-Archive-Read-Only/Won...

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201. zdragn+MO1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 00:23:28
>>some_r+AK1
Wikipedia has much better information about guns than most of the people talking about them in politics, generally speaking.

It's not too surprising, considering the way the rules are written at the ATF. There's basically zero logical thought that goes into pistol vs rifle vs felony:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/a4gnr3/makes_perf...

(Sorry for the reddit link, it's a common image but that was the first url I found from a quick search that had it up front and center).

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205. Fwirt+sP1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 00:26:56
>>slg+CN1
The problem is that images of $50 bills have enough alignment marks that the code to detect them could run on hardware from the ‘90s. From what I’ve seen, these bills naively assume that somehow the printer has to detect whether something is a gun or part of a gun. The fact that slicer software has to transform a mesh into gcode for a specific printer and specific settings means that a printer can’t just hash the file or something to check a blacklist. And how do you tell if something is part of a gun? A PVC pipe could be a gun barrel by that metric. Or maybe a trigger assembly is designed for a rubber band gun instead of an illegal firearm.

https://xkcd.com/1425/

I doubt there is a weapons expert that could look at a given STL file and unambiguously tell you whether something was “part of a gun” or not. If these laws pass, they will be either unenforceable, effectively ban all 3D printer sales due to the immense difficulty of compliance, or worse, be another avenue for selective enforcement.

Furthermore, the whole “ghost guns” thing is entirely overblown and misunderstood by people who have never seen or used a 3D printer except in the movies, where Hollywood has latched onto the idea that they are designed primarily for making guns. A consumer grade 3D printer is going to print a gun that will explode in your hands the first time you try to use it, if any of the meaningful parts of the gun are printed. And nothing is stopping people from say, fabricating gun stocks with a table saw and router, or building a gun out of hardware store parts. Why aren’t we also banning mills and lathes while we’re at it? There are also chemicals at a hardware store that could be used to make explosives. If the concern was really “making guns at home”, we’d outlaw Ace Hardware and Home Depot.

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214. akerst+FQ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 00:34:21
>>MagicM+NP1
> The first person to build ChatGPT with limbs wins.

Don't worry, we're safe. It's already been done and it did not win: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/14dv530/the_homele...

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216. slg+2R1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 00:36:46
>>Fwirt+sP1
>Furthermore, the whole “ghost guns” thing is entirely overblown and misunderstood by people who have never seen or used a 3D printer except in the movies, where Hollywood has latched onto the idea that they are designed primarily for making guns. A consumer grade 3D printer is going to print a gun that will explode in your hands the first time you try to use it, if any of the meaningful parts of the gun are printed.

Here's a relevant article that addresses a lot of these points.[1]

[1] - https://www.wired.com/story/luigi-mangione-united-healthcare...

217. Camper+5R1[view] [source] 2026-02-04 00:36:49
>>ptorro+(OP)
Note that Washington's similar HB 2321 defines a "3D printer" as any additive or subtractive manufacturing machine. So these idiots want to regulate CNC machines too.

Public comments can (and should!) be submitted here: https://app.leg.wa.gov/pbc/bill/2321 Keep them polite and respectful; insults and threats won't help.

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225. kart23+uT1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 00:52:20
>>hazmaz+hB
it’s illegal to make a gun for personal use without a serial number in ny and ca.

https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/consu...

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234. nebula+rW1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 01:10:56
>>qwlefk+Am
Really garbage administration they have in NY. Hochul and a lot of her ilk have done things like block right to repair after years of activists trying to get it passed.

The way it worked was as follows:

1. Local groups push to get right to repair passed

2. Fails repeatedly for years

3. They finally get it past the houses and onto the governor's desk

4. Governor gets a visit from a 'unknown' (hint likely Apple) lobbyist, refuses to sign even though they have to

5. They wait until the very last second and then adds last minute 'amendments' neutering the bill.

6. Their sycophants then try to shut down any discussion on Reddit/other social platforms from anyone who criticizes the bill.

[1]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Fair_Repair_Act

They are going to keep doing this crap, the government needs to be voted out but just like NJ, NY is captured by really corrupt 'neoliberal' Democrats so its an uphill battle to get someone better in there. The incentives are not there: In NJ and most of NY the economic base is the wealthy suburbanites who like the way things are and will fight efforts to make radical change. That results in a lot of 'think of the children' type people who would welcome any and all bans on things like 3D printing of guns.

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242. sb057+OY1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 01:27:29
>>androi+VX1
None of what you said is true.

> the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, which gives you the right to manufacture a fire arm

There has been a right to manufacture firearms since before the Revolutionary War, and which has remained a right continually since.

> it must be for personal use

Not necessarily; though you can't conduct business without a federal license, you can, for example, manufacture a firearm to be given as a gift.

> cannot be transferred

See above.

>must have a serial number

Not only is that not true, a federal judge struck down the prohibition on defacing serial numbers in United States v. Randy Price (2022):

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wvsd.23...

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250. sb057+B02[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 01:39:31
>>talkin+7f
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/23/ban-sales-po...
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258. gretch+R22[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 01:54:49
>>tbrown+uY1
According to this source, united healthcare profits were $14B in 2024. https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/unitedhealth-unh-2024-re...

So yeah, money out not matching money in is exactly the problem.

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283. pton_x+pb2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 03:03:53
>>mystra+Ja2
It's always been this way. According to Google 64% of the voting age population voted in 2024. In 1972 it was 56%, in 1976 it was 55%, in 1980 it was 55%, in 1984 it was 56%... you get the idea [0].

[0] https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/vitalst...

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291. Retr0i+Uc2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 03:18:00
>>pjc50+Ya
> Even the UK with our weird panic over Incredibly Specific Knives hasn't tried to do this kind of technical restriction to prevent people printing guns.

They haven't done this specific restriction, but there is a movement to make it illegal to possess the CAD files: https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3877

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343. shit_g+Tp2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 05:29:11
>>notepa+fn2
Complex manufacturing of improvised firearms has been practically made obsolete by the commodification of both steel tubing and cartridges. "Pipe guns" are incredibly easy to make, and require little more than a pipe, a cap, and a drill (which can sometimes be omitted as well). Many common cartridge diameters very closely or exactly match commercially available pipe diameters, and the hardware to make a single-shot firearm is ubiquitous in any store that sells plumbing supplies. Pipe guns are simple and cheap enough to make that some people abuse gun buy-back programs by deliberately manufacturing pipe guns for pennies and pocketing the money these programs offer [0]. These are real, functional guns, and I promise they're simpler, faster, and cheaper to manufacture than any 3d printed gun.

0: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/11/17/handing-zip-g...

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344. throw3+Vp2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 05:29:41
>>Gigach+np2
> because you still can't get the other parts that aren't printed

Every part except the firing pin is now printable (you can print quite strong carbon-fiber reinforced parts at home). The firing pin can be made from a nail or similar piece of metal.

> You can't get bullets

Bullets are mostly easy enough to make. One of my neighbors growing up was a competitive shooter who competed nationally and internationally. He manufactured his own ammo in his home shop, using tools any boomer dad had access to, like a lathe, presses and very accurate scales. He didn't really pay any more for ammo than we did per round. The only reason criminals don't do it is because buying factory ammo on the gray and black market is so easy.

The most difficult part to make would probably be the primers, but that still isn't difficult for any chemist.

Here's a (old) video of someone in Europe making their own ammo at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Cx4idIIe0

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351. maxlyb+Nr2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 05:51:06
>>Retric+is
Yes, this comes up, but the Court tends to say things that didn’t exist are covered by constitutional rights. I can’t imagine think of any time they asked “could the founders have imagined this?” Television, radio, and the internet are all protected by freedom of the press without anybody ever showing that the founders could have imagined them.

From Heller v. DC:

“Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.”

A few years after that ruling, the Massachusetts state supreme court upheld a conviction for a woman who had carried a taser for self defense. The Supreme Court accepted her challenge, allowed it to go forward without paying court costs, and unanimously overturned that ruling without asking for oral arguments ( https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/577/411/ ):

“The court offered three explanations to support its holding that the Second Amendment does not extend to stun guns. First, the court explained that stun guns are not protected because they ‘were not in common use at the time of the Second Amendment’s enactment.’ This is inconsistent with Heller’s clear statement that the Second Amendment ‘extends . . . to . . . arms . . . that were not in existence at the time of the founding.’

“The court next asked whether stun guns are ‘dangerous per se at common law and unusual,’ in an attempt to apply one ‘important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms.’ ... In so doing, the court concluded that stun guns are ‘unusual’ because they are ‘a thoroughly modern invention.’ By equating ‘unusual’ with ‘in common use at the time of the Second Amendment’s enactment,’ the court’s second explanation is the same as the first; it is inconsistent with Heller for the same reason.

“Finally, the court used ‘a contemporary lens’ and found ‘nothing in the record to suggest that [stun guns] are readily adaptable to use in the military.’ But Heller rejected the proposition ‘that only those weapons useful in warfare are protected.’

“For these three reasons, the explanation the Massachusetts court offered for upholding the law contradicts this Court’s precedent.”

The fact that Caetano was a unanimous and thorough ruling says a lot to me. Perhaps you’re holding out hope that Heller will be overturned soon, but the chances for that are very slim ( https://youtu.be/nFTRwD85AQ4 ).

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370. browsi+Bu2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 06:15:10
>>wombat+Hk2
That's not true. They have millions of digitized 4473s. They are banned by law from creating a searchable registry of gun owners but they digitize paperwork on a daily basis.

https://medium.com/statute-circuit/the-atfs-quiet-digital-tr...

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372. browsi+Gv2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 06:24:16
>>rpcope+ij2
Here, among other vendors:

https://southbendreplicas.com/

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374. int_19+3w2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 06:28:03
>>debate+IS1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Luty#Firearms_design

> one particular design, outlined in his book Expedient Homemade Firearms, is the best known. This design makes extensive use of easily procured materials such as folded sheet metal, bar stock, washers, and hex screws. It is a simple blowback-operated sub-machine gun and entirely made from craft-produced components, including the magazine and pistol grip. The major drawback of such designs is the lack of rifling in the barrel, which results in poor accuracy and limited range

This book was openly sold on Amazon 10 years ago. I still have one on my shelf.

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380. int_19+bx2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 06:38:20
>>cjbgka+d22
It reminds me of a certain meme gun along these lines.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ATBGE/comments/b4d9gy/unicorn_rifle...

(Yes, it is a real gun and it shoots real 9mm bullets.)

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417. lostlo+1K2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 08:28:04
>>reveri+Iy2
The measure that interests me os the percentage of eligible voters that picked Trump - 31.6%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States...

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425. rl3+7M2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 08:44:44
>>purple+Jy2
One of the more notable examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Nacchio

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433. Siempr+WO2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 09:05:23
>>nicewo+XN2
What do you mean? The police shut down 3d gun factories every now and then, and here's a EP briefing about it https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2025/7758...
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456. defros+tV2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 09:56:02
>>direwo+UU2
It's the same "blocking technology" JWZ uses on his sites.

Easily sidestepped, it's there to make a point I guess: https://www.jwz.org/blog/

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462. Ransom+qW2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 10:03:57
>>wombat+Gl2
No, and the blades created because of the methods used, would likely not be covered by the legislation anyway, theres a carve out for antiques and weapons made using traditional methods (now define traditional methods, because the law doesn't, but hammer and anvil would seem to be the most obvious traditional approach).

However, in practice the police continually take and often destroy legally owned antiques claiming they are zombie swords.

The law is written in such a way the police can take anything and you have to prove to a judge they aren't illegal.

One very large example of such police practices: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RPm4Pts23Qg

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469. Ransom+RY2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 10:23:00
>>pjc50+yh
Yeah, its almost as if the knives aren't the problem. The gang memebrs will use whatever gives them an advantage, guns, knives, acid, bats, bricks. We can't ban everything, we should possibly tackle the cause instead of the symptom...

But don't worry, in the mean time they're coming for our regular knives.

The BBC has already rolled out Idris Ebla to explain that kitchen knives shouldnt have points[0]. Yes this has been picked up by politicians with the minister for policing at the time calling it an interesting idea [1].

[0] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1j...

[1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/...

Sorry about the amp links

492. xinayd+ua3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 11:50:23
>>ptorro+(OP)
This is ridiculous. As WIRED has shown [0], the only 3D printed part of most "3D printed" guns is the frame. You can do only so much with the frame alone. All the other parts are sourced online and much easier to get, other than getting a 3D printer and finding the frame of the gun you want to print it for.

Maybe these advocating for gun control laws for 3D printers should first advocate for stricter control on selling spare repair parts for guns and the websites selling them with no sort of background check.

[0] https://www.wired.com/story/luigi-mangione-ghost-gun-built-t...

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503. WillAd+Ec3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 12:05:19
>>gpm+ab
Well, at least folks will still be able to make AK-47s:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121128215957/http://www.northe...

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508. mschus+ge3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 12:18:33
>>joe_ma+Ac3
Let's do some napkin math: Iran has about 94 million people. Iran's IRGC alone has a personnel count of 125.000 [1], of which about 2-5000 are estimated to be the elite of the elite ("Quds Force"). Together with the Basij (anywhere from 100-600k) that alone is a sufficient amount of force. And on top of that come maybe 400-500k of the regular Iranian Armed Forces [2], as well as about 260k active police+100k police reservists.

So, if one sees the whole of IRGC plus Basij as the "commandos", they alone form an active elite of about 0.5%, if one sees the entirety of the military+police we're looking at easily 2-3 million units, so up to 2%.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Revolutionary_Guard_Co...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Republic_of_Iran_Armed...

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519. rayine+yj3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 12:57:03
>>mystra+Ja2
Multiple polls have found that if everyone had voted, Trump would have won by even more. https://data.blueroseresearch.org/hubfs/2024%20Blue%20Rose%2...

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-elec...

The average person who doesn’t vote is a low-trust individual who is skeptical about government and institutions. Those people are Trumpier than average.

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524. meindn+Vk3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 13:06:26
>>int_19+3w2
See it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YE9J7qcj0c
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528. laylow+xn3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 13:22:17
>>robfly+dO1
This is part of the wider problem and heavily relates to the right to repair

Cory talked about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39jsstmmUUs

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542. delect+eq3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 13:42:14
>>tbrown+B62
I can't find the detailed breakdown for 2025, but in 2024, they took in $308bn in premiums and paid out $264bn in medical costs. So even ignoring all of the downstream and systemic problems caused by insurance existing as a for-profit entity, they're taking 14% off the top just to exist as a middle-man.

https://www.unitedhealthgroup.com/content/dam/UHG/PDF/invest...

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558. bluedi+Kt3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 14:03:19
>>notepa+BP1
Not cast iron

https://revolutionarywarjournal.com/how-colonial-gunsmiths-f...

559. anta40+Rt3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 14:04:19
>>ptorro+(OP)
For some unknown reasons, the PDF page: https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2025/S9005

stuck on loading (tested on both latest Firefox and Chrome on macOS). I'm on Indonesia, BTW. Could someone upload the PDF?

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568. bluedi+av3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 14:10:46
>>standa+nF1
> Few people would bring an illegal firearm into NYC or other major US metros

Someone is. They recover thousands of illegal guns in Chicago alone every year.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/report/firearms-trace-data/fire...

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576. ale42+yw3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 14:18:59
>>krater+IZ2
Some more tests on this old page: https://murdoch.is/projects/currency/ (2004)
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586. ptorro+Pz3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 14:35:27
>>direwo+UU2
i am the author of the article.

the adafruit blog is not trying to block you my dude(s). we are under constant automated scraping and ddos, largely from ai crawlers, and we use cloudflare to keep the site online at all. the nature of of these things will cause false positives depending on browser, extensions, network, or referrer.

the site publishs full-text rss feeds with no blockers here, no ads: https://blog.adafruit.com/rss

the site respects do not track, privacy badger, and similar tools. the site will probably never pass the purity tests for everyone, the goal is to stay independent, publishing, without selling readers or folding into a mega-platform. we're open source and vc free, chill out about us, ok?

if you still can’t get an article and want it in html, markdown, text, or pdf, email me and i’ll send it directly, i will read it on the phone to you, i am not kidding.

we’re trying, and we’ll keep trying. you gotta meet somewhere.

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588. ptorro+Xz3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 14:35:41
>>dogtim+sp3
(posting this in both comments about this) i am the author of the article.

the adafruit blog is not trying to block you my dude(s). we are under constant automated scraping and ddos, largely from ai crawlers, and we use cloudflare to keep the site online at all. the nature of of these things will cause false positives depending on browser, extensions, network, or referrer.

the site publishs full-text rss feeds with no blockers here, no ads: https://blog.adafruit.com/rss

the site respects do not track, privacy badger, and similar tools. the site will probably never pass the purity tests for everyone, the goal is to stay independent, publishing, without selling readers or folding into a mega-platform. we're open source and vc free, chill out about us, ok?

if you still can’t get an article and want it in html, markdown, text, or pdf, email me and i’ll send it directly, i will read it on the phone to you, i am not kidding.

we’re trying, and we’ll keep trying. you gotta meet somewhere.

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590. zdragn+UB3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 14:45:19
>>voidUp+RV2
There's no legal definition per Congress. Generally speaking, braces are intended to stabilize a pistol against your arm [0], whereas a rifle stock is meant to stabilize against your shoulder. However, braces can technically be "misused" such that the rear of the brace fits against the shoulder, meaning it is used as a stock. Likewise, the distinction is so small something as simple as a sling attachment to the stock could make it a brace, or an articulation that could be used as a cheek rest turn a brace into a stock, converting a pistol into a rifle or vice versa. For awhile, the only way to know the difference was for the manufacturer to submit an NFA and hope.

The ATF has been in court (and lost) quite a bit [1] over this.

[0] there's a nice picture and writeup here of a pistol brace being setup https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gear-review-sig-sb15-pisto...

[1] a brief rundown of the 2023-2025 legal rulings https://www.fflguard.com/atf-pistol-brace-rule/

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601. Retric+VJ3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 15:21:41
>>int_19+by2
“Possessing a live grenade is illegal.” https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-def...

Obviously there’s a bunch of exceptions, including as you point out the federal option of going through a background check and paying 200$/grenade. But that’s only at the federal level it doesn’t necessarily meet state requirements.

The rules on those background checks are as capricious as banning people who were dishonorably discharged from the military.

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602. ptorro+cK3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 15:23:08
>>ssl-3+6I3
(posting this in both comments about this) i am the author of the article. the adafruit blog is not trying to block you my dude(s). we are under constant automated scraping and ddos, largely from ai crawlers, and we use cloudflare to keep the site online at all. the nature of of these things will cause false positives depending on browser, extensions, network, or referrer.

the site publishs full-text rss feeds with no blockers here, no ads: https://blog.adafruit.com/rss

the site respects do not track, privacy badger, and similar tools. the site will probably never pass the purity tests for everyone, the goal is to stay independent, publishing, without selling readers or folding into a mega-platform. we're open source and vc free, chill out about us, ok?

if you still can’t get an article and want it in html, markdown, text, or pdf, email me and i’ll send it directly, i will read it on the phone to you, i am not kidding.

we’re trying, and we’ll keep trying. you gotta meet somewhere.

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604. greena+fL3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 15:28:28
>>hactua+BO1
They are trying to criminalize everyone who uses a normal lathe or a normal CNC without a permit

House Bill 2321 (HB-2321) proposes exemptions only for machines with licensed AI firmware that connects to blacklists, potentially requiring refits or licensing for machine shops.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/A2228

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605. Neeek+rL3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 15:29:06
>>throw3+hA2
Well over a decade actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_(gun) but of course just ignore the context of the parent comment about what's legally considered a firearm.
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606. BobaFl+AL3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 15:30:01
>>cucumb+Wv3
>It's not hard to not be "the thing" in any given crazy's life they choose to go out with a bang over

> The "budget" you have to wrong people and cause despair before people would be apathetic to violence done upon you is pretty directly coupled to the amount of good you do to offset your harm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Abraham_Linco...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kenne...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_John_Lennon

Agree to disagree. I'm not willing to trust the judgement of those most willing to commit gun violence as to whom deserves gun violence.

608. greena+GM3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 15:35:10
>>ptorro+(OP)
Washington state lawmakers, led by Democrats, have introduced bills like HB 2320 and HB 2321. HB 2320 is sponsored solely by Rep. Osman Salahuddin (D-48th District), focusing on prohibiting 3D printers and CNC machines for untraceable firearms. HB 2321, pushing printer DRM requirements, similarly lacks Republican co-sponsors based on available details. In Washington where this is going on in the state House Democrats hold 59 seats, Republicans hold 39 seats and in the state Senate Democrats hold 30 seats, Republicans hold 19 seats. These Democrat-sponsored bills passed initial House committees along party lines, with no Republican co-sponsors or primary support Virginia Democrats are advancing multiple gun ban bills in the 2026 session, including assault weapon sales bans and magazine capacity limits, primarily through Democrat-controlled committees. Virginia's General Assembly has a slim Democratic majority sponsoring and pushing these measures without Republican support.

In VA, bills like house SB 217 (assault weapon ban) and HB 271 (semi-auto ban) were approved in the Democrat-led Senate Courts of Justice Committee strictly along party lines. Sponsors such as Sen. Saddam Azlan Salim (D) lead these efforts, facing opposition from Republicans like Del. Terry Kilgore (R). They await full Assembly votes and signature from Democratic Gov. Abigail Spanberger.

In NY State, Democrats, holding supermajorities in the Assembly (103-47) and Senate (42-20), champion Governor Hochul's 2026 State of the State proposals. These include criminalizing unlicensed possession/sale of CAD files for 3D-printed guns (via Penal Law amendments), mandating 3D printer safety standards to block firearm production, and requiring recovery reports to state police. Key bills like S.227A (Sen. Hoylman-Sigal, active in 2025 session) target 3D-printed ghost guns/silencers as felonies; related A2228 pushes printer background checks.

Republicans offer no sponsorship or support, labeling Hochul's agenda and bills like S.227A "anti-gun, anti-speech" infringements on Second Amendment rights and innovation for non-gun printing. NRA-ILA criticizes them as futile against criminals while burdening hobbyists

In my opinion the ICE unrest is a smoke screen. During Obama's presidency (roughly 2009-2017), 56 people died in ICE custody, averaging about 7 per year. There were no major protests over the 56 deaths under Obama because the current situation is a psychological influence operation led by the same criminals who seek to exterminate the rights of ordinary Americans (showcased above). There is a separate fully frontal assault on personal liberties impacting normal American citizens happening right now and it is happening while all the attention is on Minneapolis!

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=2320&Year=202...

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=2321&Year=202...

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20260127/virginia-gun-contro...

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S227/amendme...

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/A2228

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619. parine+8R3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 15:54:11
>>delect+eq3
> they took in $308bn in premiums and paid out $264bn in medical costs ... they're taking 14% off the top just to exist as a middle-man.

In 2023, they had a 0.8% profit margin[0]. 9 billion dollars in a trillion dollar industry.

Ignoring the disingenuous framing ("taking off the top" including how much they pay their employees), how does that compare to other industries?

[0]https://content.naic.org/sites/default/files/2024-annual-hea...

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620. lostlo+lR3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 15:55:18
>>clayto+sr3
I wouldn’t call the US system ‘effective’. The US system is spiralling and it’s getting dystopian. The hunger games analogy is fitting, with The Patriot Games coming right up.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/18/politics/patriot-games-an...

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628. ptorro+iV3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 16:13:03
>>Roark6+QS3
this isn’t an adafruit-specific stance, it’s a web-wide problem. automated scraping and bot traffic is enough to take independent sites offline, and cloudflare is a tool we use to keep the site available at all. we publish full-text rss with no blockers here: https://blog.adafruit.com/rss . if cloudflare trips on your browser and you want an article, email me and i’ll send it in whatever format you want, we're always working to make it easier, it's hard, would rather have help than snarks and dunks.
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654. pfranz+P54[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 16:57:30
>>mayhem+LZ3
> If you look at how Apple detects contraband imagery, they hash every image that gets uploaded into the photos app. Those hashes are transmitted to servers that compare them to hashes of known contraband.

You're spelling out a specific process in detail--which is the only reason I'm picking on details. Do you have anything documenting what you're describing?

From what I remember, Apple's system was proposed, but never shipped. They proposed hashing your photos locally and comparing them to a local database of known CSAM images. Only when there was was a match, they would transmit the photos for manual confirmation. This describes Apple's proposal [1].

I believe what did ship is an algorithm to detect novel nude imagery and gives some sort of warning for kids sending or receiving that data. None of that involves checks against Apple's server.

I do think other existing photo services will scan only photos you've uploaded to their cloud.

I'm happy to make corrections. To my knowledge, what you're describing hasn't been done so far.

[1] https://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/929-On...

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658. propel+884[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 17:07:51
>>slg+CN1
Huge, important distinctions:

Manufacturing firearms is not unlawful in the State of New York, nor is it unlawful federally.

As far as I can tell, there is no federal or state law that compels any company to add features like the ones HP has added to their products. I have not spent a large amount of time researching. Just browsed a few articles like this one https://www.itestcash.com/blogs/news/your-guide-to-federal-c....

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685. anigbr+Qo4[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 18:17:58
>>pjc50+Ya
Why not? Because nobody is printing guns!

This is demonstrably untrue: https://gnet-research.org/2025/01/08/beyond-the-fgc-9-how-th...

Why would you waste everyone's time posting such nonsense? It's not that I support this legislation, but arguing against with counterfactual statements is unhelpful noise.

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700. rayine+Hs4[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 18:33:14
>>Zak+cq4
According to Gallup, the record high support for increasing immigration was about 36%. Harris presided over an administration that saw a large increase in immigration. So believe didn’t find it credible when she said she wanted to control the border. And the position of wanting to increase immigration is more ideologically extreme than Trump’s position of wanting to shut down the border to illegal immigration just as a factual matter.

The latest Harvard-Harris poll, which isn’t good for Trump, still shows people want to deport all immigrants here illegally by a 52-48 margin: https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/HHP... (page 24). I don’t think even Trump intends to actually do that. He would have to dramatically escalate what he’s doing now in order to achieve that outcome.

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717. direwo+H75[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 21:43:36
>>ptorro+Pz3
> the site publishs full-text rss feeds with no blockers here, no ads: https://blog.adafruit.com/RSS

hmmm

> Sorry, you have been blocked. You are unable to access adafruit.com

> Why have I been blocked?

> This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data.

Someone is lying here

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728. nyjah+Gv5[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 23:59:58
>>ssl-3+x35
Michigan border towns are insane for that reason. People come from as far as 6 states over for the cheap prices. On the other side of the state from Monroe lies New Buffalo. 33 dispos on a small stretch of road in a small lake town. All to bring in.. wait for it… $1.4mil in tax revenue ie basically a rounding error for even a small municipality…

https://www.wndu.com/2026/01/28/new-buffalo-residents-voice-...

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729. encela+gD5[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 00:54:13
>>torgin+p22
Exactly, but it's less effort to steal a gun or have someone else purchase a gun for you then to 3d print a gun.

But even then it's not that difficult, it's entirely possible and legal in many states to print a polymer lower for a AR15 or Glock 17. Then go buy a parts kit from PSA $450 and have fun zero background check or sales tax required as the smaller gun parts stores do not have multistate business nexuses.

It is also not difficult to 3dprint a glock switch, even though they illegal per the NFA https://3dgo.app/models/makerworld/2035005.

This is 100% virtue-signaling from politicians.

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734. pfranz+6R5[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 02:50:51
>>mayhem+I74
This page probably has the most detail: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

This article is a few years old, but has more of a plain-English, third party explanation: https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/01/21/what-apple-surren...

Its fair not to trust Apple or any company, but Google and a lot of companies were scanning the cloud versions without the negative press Apple got. My understanding is Apple proposed scanning on-device because images were encrypted in the cloud. Uploading and have manual review process seems like a big ongoing cost.

Personally, I dont think Apple is doing anything with photos it stores in the cloud.

Like the first article says, technically they could, because they store the encryption key for user-convenience. Turning on Advanced Data Protection should take away their ability to decrypt photos. But there are a whole bunch of caveats if you're talking about all cloud their data and that has changed over the years.

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