>>_pdp_+59
Fwiw the new 'maltbot' (molt.bot) is the legit one and can be verified on the official github repo which has had its org changed and loads here: https://github.com/moltbot/moltbot (the original redirects for some added reassurance).

My understanding it was a very quick rebrand due to Anthropic sending a takedown notice so theres still references to the old name.

>>_pdp_+59
I did an analysis myself yesterday and commented about it: >>46760930

>>avaer+qt
Similar history to you. Finding this compelling: https://open.substack.com/pub/omniharmonic/p/a-regenerative-...

>>brisky+(OP)
It feels worth separating two things here that have unfortunately become commingled: crypto pump and dumps and AI-enabled spikes.

Haven't we learned by now that all crypto coins are pump-and-dump schemes? Unless you're HODLing BTC or whatever... (yes, I'm a huge crypto skeptic)

As for the actual software, why isn't it worth exploring how to better incorporate this current wave of AI into our lives? I've idly wondered what an "AI coding factory" would look like, and Gas Town is an interesting instantiation of the idea. I've also wondered how to best incorporate memory and personal knowledge into an agent that I can self-host. Clawdbot (now Molt?) is an interesting take. People exploring these ideas shouldn't be shot down.

What I fail to understand is why anybody would buy a coin attached to these projects: what are the buyers expecting to happen to the coin? Is this yet another instance of the greater fool theory[1] that we saw with NFTs?

I also fail to understand why the creators are getting involved. I guess the author is trying to answer that question. I'd like to think of a more charitable interpretation than reputation laundering, but I'm not sure what it is... I'm open to suggestions :)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory

>>storys+0h1
> The flat-rate subscription is really the only thing making it accessible right now.

So this paragraph from the "Welcome To Gas Town" article [0] suggests to me that real, sustained users of a Gas Town instance are paying far, far more than -say- 600USD per month:

  Gas Town is also expensive as hell. You won’t like Gas Town if you ever have to think, even for a moment, about where money comes from. I had to get my second Claude Code account, finally; they don’t let you siphon unlimited dollars from a single account, so you need multiple emails and siphons, it’s all very silly. My calculations show that now that Gas Town has finally achieved liftoff, I will need a third Claude Code account by the end of next week. It is a cash guzzler.

200 USD per month is something that I -as a working programmer- wouldn't think twice about spending for a fantastically useful tool (even if I had to spend it from my own pocket). If I had to pay 600 USD/month out-of-pocket, it would have me thinking for a bit to see if it was really worth it, but if the company was footing the bill, I'd expense it without a second thought.

Compared to USian programmer pay (especially Yeggie-level pay), 600 USD/month absolutely does not qualify as "a cash guzzler". Hell, that's less than the cost of the sort of health insurance you usually get at nice software companies.

I suppose that there's an alternative interpretation where Yeggie is concerned about the actual cost to the LLM company for the queries that Gas Town makes... but that seems unlikely to me. First, why would he care? Second, why would he say "You won’t like Gas Town if you ever have to think, even for a moment, about where money comes from."? I would give zero shits about where my LLM company's money comes from... that's not my problem.

[0] <https://steve-yegge.medium.com/welcome-to-gas-town-4f25ee16d...>