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Minneapolis driver shot and killed by ICE

submitted by fzeror+(OP) on 2026-01-07 19:59:44 | 352 points 232 comments
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7. pantal+Vi[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-07 21:11:20
>>therob+tc
> I don’t know German history very well but I don’t remember hearing that non-Nazis were loudly opposing the Nazis.

There sure was opposition to them (while it was still possible), that sure changed after they had enough power to get you locked up and killed for trying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbanner_Schwarz-Rot-Gold

9. mothba+0n[view] [source] 2026-01-07 21:27:17
>>fzeror+(OP)
There was a very similar private security guard case to this a few years ago where the security guard was yelling at someone to leave but then physically blocked their car. When the person moved, the security guard shot them.[]

He got roasted in court because he had given conflicting commands, and also because you can't put yourself in jeopardy just so you can shoot someone that's running away (police can but only fleeing felons). Life sentence.

This appears to me what happened here. She was committing a misdemeanor, and running away from the misdemeanor. Police explicitly asked her to move her vehicle. After she finally did so they stood in front of her to intentionally put themselves in jeopardy so they would have a reason to "defend themselves."

I have a feeling it will be a very long and dicey trial that ends up in a hung jury. Hopefully Minneapolis doesn't experience riots due to this; but it would prove the exception.

[] https://www.kptv.com/2023/05/24/private-security-guard-who-s...

10. antioc+Co[view] [source] 2026-01-07 21:33:31
>>fzeror+(OP)
Full news story coverage/flow here: https://yandori.io/news-flow/story/2026-01-07-6507910-federa...
11. martyt+Ap[view] [source] 2026-01-07 21:36:43
>>fzeror+(OP)
Video of the incident: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1q6o4d0/another_angle_...
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17. andrew+It[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-07 21:52:21
>>martyt+Ap
YouTube link to Minnesota Reporter channel:

https://youtu.be/K9CJY5p0xz4?si=IGIUoEjnepwER_4f

23. apical+qx[view] [source] 2026-01-07 22:08:44
>>fzeror+(OP)
NBC News reports that this was contrary to the officer's training and DHS' own policies.

> ICE officers are trained to never approach a vehicle from the front and instead to approach in a “tactical L” 90-degree angle to prevent injury or cross-fire, a senior Department of Homeland Security official told NBC News.

> Officers are also instructed not to shoot at a moving vehicle and only to use force if there is an immediate risk of serious injury or death, the official said.

> ICE officers are also instructed that firing at a vehicle will not make it stop moving in the direction of the officer.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/minnesota-ice...

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24. Tadpol+FA[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-07 22:23:43
>>fzeror+ea
I mean, the comment above is now flagged and dead. Doesn't that mean the mods killed someone's comment solely for giving their opinion on the state of their own country?

EDIT: And [dead] removed now. Fascinating. I checked the unofficial guide on GitHub again to confirm my understanding:

https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flaggi...

> A [dead] submission (that does not also show [flagged]) is killed by a moderator or by the software. They will only be shown to users who have showdead enabled in their profile. A submission can simultaneously be [flagged] and [dead].

25. subdav+nC[view] [source] 2026-01-07 22:30:55
>>fzeror+(OP)
There are at least 3 different videos from different angles. Here are all of them.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU...

I've watched them all repeatedly. It's clear she was blocked in at the front, trying to pull out, and yielded, waving the ICE vehicles to go around front.

They instead got out, needlessly attempted to drag her from her vehicle, and she freaked out and tried to GTFO by turning right to avoid hitting any of them. She was shot and killed for it.

36. daheza+NI[view] [source] 2026-01-07 23:01:28
>>fzeror+(OP)
I'm not sure if she was a constitutional observer but saw some comments saying it. Seems like a honorable job to do in todays climate especially if you are looking to take a more active role after this. [1]

[1] https://copalmn.org/the-handbook-for-constitutional-observer...

37. mickle+WI[view] [source] 2026-01-07 23:02:15
>>fzeror+(OP)
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/comments/1q6to5j/...

HuffPost has obtained a video of a physician trying to give medical care to the woman shot and killed by ICE agents today, and not being allowed to go near her. The ICE agents claim there are medics on site, but witnesses scream that there are no medics presentExtensively reported

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42. mickle+qM[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-07 23:23:09
>>Dustin+hu
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terro...
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45. DicIfT+eN[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-07 23:28:55
>>Hikiko+Ut
> They were the first to be purged together with homosexuals, transvestites, handicapped, etc.

Speaking of which: https://www.lemkininstitute.com/single-post/experts-warn-u-s...

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47. anigbr+vN[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-07 23:30:40
>>hypeat+Wr
Also remember the rights reaction to Babbit (an insurrectionist) being shot at the J6 riot.

That's official government policy now. It's worth taking a few minutes to look at that whole page, it's straight 1984 type revisionism.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/j6/

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48. layer8+QN[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-07 23:32:10
>>zug_zu+0E
1) Use https://news.ycombinator.com/active, where demotions aren’t applied (at least that’s my understanding). The submission is currently on the front page there.

2) For contacting dang, email hn@ycombinator.com. “@dang” doesn’t do anything.

57. baubin+rR[view] [source] 2026-01-07 23:51:57
>>fzeror+(OP)
I’m not seeing this discussed very much but Minnesota governor Tim Walz has issued an order to prepare the state’s National Guard:

> “To Minnesotans, on the National Guard, they’re there to protect you and protect your constitutional rights,” Walz said. “These are our neighbors. They don’t wear masks. They don’t bust in from somewhere else. They’re not here to cause hassles to you or what we saw today, the tragedy.”

It sounds like he is calling on the National Guard to protect against ICE? Is this the first time a state has done this? I personally think it’s the right move but this is a serious matter to have one law enforcement agency called out to protect against another law enforcement agency. If true, this is a very big deal.

edit: More about Walz’s statement:

> In addition to readying the state’s National Guard, the governor said the State Bureau of Criminal Apprehension is investigating the incident, where masked agents were recorded approaching a vehicle in the middle of a Minneapolis street and an agent then fired shots into the car after it accelerated. Walz also said he activated the State Emergency Operation Center and members of the State Patrol’s Mobile Response Team.

> “From here on, I have a very simple message: We do not need any further help from the federal government,” Walz said. “To Donald Trump and [Homeland Security Secretary] Kristi Noem, you’ve done enough.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5677541-walz-minnes...

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76. _DeadF+B91[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 01:56:44
>>silexi+F11
As is being downvoted for no reason in another post here, ICE broke all training for this type of incident.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/minnesota-ice...

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77. _DeadF+J91[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 01:57:34
>>neogod+Pp
They did not follow any training in this incident

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/minnesota-ice...

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87. _DeadF+6h1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 02:53:33
>>silexi+F11
You all tried this narrative last time Ice shot someone up already. And the charges were dropped because it's a bullshit made up PR narrative to provide cover until time has passed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/minneapolis-ice-shootin...

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89. kcplat+fi1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 03:04:43
>>subdav+jc1
Here is the slowed down and zoomed video.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/2008976092326203562

Here is what I see in this video…

- Officer at driver side window, reaches into vehicle while simultaneously trying to open the door (I cannot fathom why an officer would be reaching in the vehicle and attempting to open the door if he was giving the driver an order to move the vehicle, but perhaps there would be a reason for this). At this time the vehicle is moving backward, its tires turned to the left shifting the front of the vehicle to the right. The shooting officer comes into view but appears to be stationary. (This suggests that he was probably on the front right of the vehicle before the vehicle reversed). The reversing movement of the vehicle orients its front end to line up with him in front of the vehicle.

- Shooting officer is in front of the car just left of center of the hood when vehicle starts moving forward

- Vehicle tires spin before gaining traction and they are facing forward. The officer is directly in front of the vehicle at this moment

- Vehicle tires are straight towards the officer until after he unholsters his firearm, only at that point does the vehicle wheels start turning towards the right. Also at this point the vehicle begins moving towards the right and the officer begins moving towards his right (to avoid being hit).

- Officer is still at the front left corner of the vehicle when shooting but nearly clear. He is at an angle where it is possible for him to shoot through the windshield at the driver, his body dodges further to the right as he is firing his weapon. Additional shot appears to have been fired after he was cleared of the immediate danger.

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99. HaZeus+Rr1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 04:42:37
>>xphos+lq1
Why would I watch the obfuscated view? Watch it up close and on the side closest to the so-called "hit" cop - as you say (and silently edited out to "bump"):

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU...

Watch the one titled "LEFT-full-duration". Watch it in slow motion. Everything in my GP is correct:

1.) The lady reversed to make room to drive away AFTER conflicting orders to "get out of there" and to "get out of the car";

2.) An ICE agent got in front of her car mid-reverse and hovered for his sidearm;

3.) The lady gets out of reverse and turns her wheels to face to the right, the ICE agent is now middle-left of her car, and commits to drawing his weapon;

4.) Lady commits to her right turn and didn't hit the cop, as evidenced by the fact that he was literally out of the way, he didn't lose footing, and most of all - he was able to shoot the driver at point-black from the driver's side window. If the car was aimed for him - let alone if he was hit, it would have been physically impossible for ANY of those to occur on their own AND ESPECIALLY in combination - most of all, the point-blank shot from the driver's side window.

The agent who fired NEEDS to be tried for murder, simple as.

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103. nebula+It1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 05:04:20
>>therob+tc
https://youtu.be/1Wf-Y2_I91A?t=6064
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114. perihe+NI1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 07:34:16
>>potsan+DX
They (Google) routinely do that with or without ID laws; they have more than enough PII in the common-case.

>>39796550 ("Google ordered to identify who watched certain YouTube videos" (380 comments))

(That article does say this kind of "dragnet" search warrant is, in theory, precluded by the US Constitution. One can ask a certain 6-year old child in Minnesota who just their mother to masked constitution-men what that constitution means).

125. perihe+U32[view] [source] 2026-01-08 11:01:32
>>fzeror+(OP)
https://imgur.com/a/vmnLFWv

The mother's 6-year-old child's stuffed animals overflowing the glovebox.

The child has lost both parents and is now an orphan.

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126. perihe+z82[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 11:37:43
>>mickle+WI
The Washington Post quotes that,

> "“I’m a physician,” the man protested."

> "“I don’t care,” the officer replied,"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/07/ice-sh... ( https://archive.is/hP0qR )

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133. perihe+lp2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 13:54:35
>>perihe+U32
Primary source is:

https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/01/07/ice-officer-fatally... ("Photo by Nicole Neri/Minnesota Reformer")

https://web.archive.org/web/20260108053100/https://minnesota...

I've confirmed, with search engine caches, that this is the photo Reddit Trust & Safety intervened to remove from Reddit's front page, at the permalink here,

https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1q6tclo/removed_by_re... ("[ Removed by Reddit ]" (1147 comments))

Thankfully, Silicon Valley does not (yet) exert editorial control over newspapers who self-host.

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144. doom2+YG2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 15:21:37
>>ndsipa+GY1
Not a lawyer, but I've been thinking a lot about under which conditions stand your ground laws might apply to people defending themselves against law enforcement officers. The power balance is still such that most people won't shoot at a police (or ICE) officer, so I don't think it's likely to happen, but there is already legal precedent[1] regarding it.

[1] https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2020/05/when-stand-your-ground-...

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156. Sam713+y53[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 17:15:17
>>kcplat+Ha1
If you watch the close up video from the 7 o’clock angle, you can clearly see that the tires don’t spin out by looking at the speed of the rims. Furthermore, imagine yourself in a situation where an aggressive, masked, armored, and armed person is trying to pull your door open while screaming in your face. You’re in full fight or flight mode, tunnel vision, scared, and confused. At this same time, unbeknownst to the driver, another agent had circled around counterclockwise behind the rear of the vehicle, up the right side in the vehicle’s blind spot, and across the front of the vehicle. Driver is still focused on the other ICE agent trying to yank her door open. Driver decides on the flight option, as obviously fight would be insane, and tries to leave the scene. Driver clearly turns to the right, trying to AVOID the agent that had crept around to the front while her back was turned. The driver isn’t a person with a violent criminal past and felony warrant. There is absolutely no reason for this level of aggression, corralling tactics, or escalation of force. This is not an appropriate way for law enforcement to interact with civilians in any sane society. The shooter immediately draws his weapon at the first sign of vehicle movement, while also placing his body at a 45° angle to the front corner of the vehicle. As the driver attempts to turn away at a relatively slow speed, the shooter brings weapon up, pushing shooting stance forward into the vehicle, even though he has an easy step away from the vehicles path. Even if he did get bumped by the vehicle, by the time the first shot is fired, he’s already positioned to the side of front quarter panel, out of the vehicles path (you can clearly see this not only in the video, but also in photos of the angle and placement of the bullet hole in the windshield). The threat of serious bodily injury or death is literally already passed, yet the shooter fires two more rounds point blank through the driver’s side window. It is after these final two rounds are fired that the vehicle actually accelerates. I speculate that the driver was likely already dead or incapacitated at this point, and lack of motor control caused weight of their leg to push into accelerator. It doesn’t matter if this person was protesting ICE, or blocking traffic. This is not justified self defense (the threat of death or serious bodily injury had already passed), there was no threat to anyone else, and this is not an appropriate way for law enforcement to interact with general civilian population. At a minimum this is a reckless disregard for public safety, manslaughter, and lack of professional discipline.

Edit: bellingcat did a video sketching overhead reenactment of the event. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTPraD7DGZh/

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158. bakies+883[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 17:27:23
>>tastyf+9g1
This is something that at least used to exist in recent history.

For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_State_Defense_Fo...

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159. thomas+193[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 17:30:58
>>chrled+Es1
According to this NPR article, it currently is legal for ICE to detain you if you are visibly ethnic:

  A federal court agreed, ruling that agents can't rely on factors such as race, speaking Spanish, wearing workman-like clothes, and location [...] to meet the standard of "individualized suspicion."

  But in September, the Supreme Court paused that previous ruling, saying immigration agents can use those factors as reasonable suspicion to stop someone. (Legal proceedings continue on this case, however.)
https://npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5517998/ice-arrest-rules-ex...
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167. ceejay+Ll3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 18:28:18
>>tim333+4o2
> I think it may be different because firstly it's clearly murder or an unlawful shooting if you watch the video…

We've had plenty of those without meaningful consequences in most cases.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver is a good example if you can stomach the video. It's way worse than the text summary implies.

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173. Sam713+qu3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 19:12:45
>>nojvek+jm3
Unfortunately not. Federal law in this circumstance supersedes state authority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

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186. ethers+N94[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 22:53:34
>>gorgoi+XA1
That's already happened:

https://lataco.com/federal-immigration-agents-halloween-mask...

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187. nobody+da4[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 22:57:10
>>Sam713+y53
I'd add that since, as ICE claims, Ms. Good had already been non-violently interacting with them, they had the opportunity to note the license plate and, if they felt criminal charges for obstructing their operations were appropriate, they could just go to her (nearby) house and arrest her later.

There was absolutely no reason for the attempt to pull her out of her car, and even less for escalation to use deadly force and, IIUC, DOJ guidelines and DHS policies[1] back that up.

This was an execution, not a law enforcement officer "defending" himself. That the decision was made in the heat of the moment doesn't make it any less an execution.

What's more, shooting peaceful protestors (cf. First Amendment[0]) is illegal on its face:

"Congress shall make no law...prohibiting...the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.*"

[0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

[1] https://apnews.com/article/ice-minneapolis-police-rules-shoo...

201. mickle+Qj4[view] [source] 2026-01-09 00:03:42
>>fzeror+(OP)
More fucking shootings in Portland: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2026/01/portland-police-res...
220. neogod+GU6[view] [source] 2026-01-09 19:44:02
>>fzeror+(OP)
https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mbz3v...

And now video made by the person firing the weapon has been released.

Make up your own mind.

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228. nebula+eHa[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-11 05:01:24
>>ndsipa+GY1
Abolishing ICE was part of AOC's original 2018 campaign platform. Now she did not mean ban all deportations but this organization was out of control 7 years ago and has just gotten worse. https://x.com/AOC/status/1031926879752802304

So like many things in the US, the right move was already proposed but it takes trying every other incorrect dumb idea before they will finally get to trying her idea.

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229. nebula+1Ia[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-11 05:11:24
>>kahrl+bi6
They have Palantir and the citizens don't. Although when one of them supposedly get found out they are not too happy. https://www.instagram.com/reels/DR0EfA8Erwa/

I honestly don't know how things are going to play out but it seems to be back and forth escalating.

So much has transpired in one year: the initial shock of the mass raids, the blatant disregard of the law, blocking of apps like IceBlock, etc. Neither side seems to want to back down.

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