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Catala – Law to Code

submitted by Grogna+(OP) on 2025-12-06 22:11:33 | 27 points 8 comments
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1. side_u+vb[view] [source] 2025-12-06 23:50:58
>>Grogna+(OP)
How does this incorporate case law?
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2. mkl+bc[view] [source] 2025-12-06 23:55:00
>>Grogna+(OP)
How strange to give it the same name as an unrelated natural language spoken by millions of people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catala
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3. embedd+Sc[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-06 23:59:57
>>mkl+bc
Not even unrelated, Catala (the law-language) seems to be a French project, supported by institutions in France, and Catalan seems to have a intertwined history with France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_language#France
4. kimfc+Sf[view] [source] 2025-12-07 00:23:37
>>Grogna+(OP)
Huh I just finished a book by Jaron Lanier that described a hypothetical system literally just like this. Always fun to get a coincidence like this
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5. Y_Y+cg[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-07 00:26:00
>>side_u+vb
That's not so important in Napoleonic/Civil jurisdictions like France. Judges can consider prior rulings, but the law as-written is the main thing.
6. sublin+4h[view] [source] 2025-12-07 00:32:50
>>Grogna+(OP)
> The aim is not to formalise or put into code all the law, because that would make no sense, but we are interested in the law that is already executed automatically, such as the calculation of social benefits, tax or unemployment.

Can anyone explain why it's believed this "would make no sense"?

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7. kelvin+Gh[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-07 00:38:30
>>sublin+4h
I assume it would fail to compile, or error out, because of myriad conflicts throughout the body of laws.
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8. embedd+9j[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-12-07 00:52:57
>>sublin+4h
Law isn't written to cover 100% of real life scenarios and potential cases, it's written with deliberate parts of ambiguity, that will ultimately be up to courts to set the precedents for, in various situations and context.

I think the idea is that you can't really cover 100% of real-life cases in "code", either legal or software, so the areas you'll leave this out of would be those "not-entirely-strict" parts.

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